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Doomsday Date Setting vs Prophecy Invention: Understanding the Difference

Believers hope someone can figure it out when Jesus is coming back and tell us so we know how how much time we have left. I was the same, hoping that the Bible had the timing hidden away somewhere there among all the many numbers in Daniel and Revelation. Yet the record of history shows that date setting calculations always fail. What are they missing? The key is to understand the purpose and limitations of Bible prophecy that Jesus explained but most date setters overlook. Learn how to identify manmade prophecies which always fail and how to correctly use end times Bible prophecy. Also, the dilemma of God giving me dreams confirming dates of my own for literal prophetic events!

If I had to identify what was most responsible for keeping Christians from achieving correct understanding of end time Bible prophecy, what would it be? What's the biggest barrier stopping them?

My answer would be that the main reason Bible prophecy aficionados keep misunderstanding Bible prophecy is because of popular date setting prophecy inventions.

By that I mean the practice of Christian authors inventing a compelling prophecy based on a verse or two and attaching a date to its fulfillment. This one-two combo has produced many persuasive theories in recent years. A few are convincing enough to spread and put prophecy fans in fear of the end being "nigh." For one example just look at 2017's  "Revelation 12 sign" theory that was much ballyhooed but failed to predict anything specific that happened.

Unfortunately, most don't see this pattern of invention an failure. They figure out that the prophecies are false after their associated dates pass.

That's why in this article I want to help you learn to recognize invented doomsday date prophecies as soon as you see them so you never fear one again!

At the same time, I will share what I learned about this subject when God gave me insight and then dreams that pointed to a date of my own!

“Date Inventing” Defined

Predictions about the future have been with us from time immemorial. Lately the practice of prediction has become epidemic. Since the World Wide Web entered the culture in 1995, it has been possible for anyone to get a website and publish their ideas to the world as text and pictures. In 2007, the advent of YouTube expanded this ability to include video (initially limited to only 10 minutes for free publishers). Social media like Facebook also has magnified how much good and bad ideas (like Flat Earth) are spread.

With the floodgates open, every conceivable theory for when and how the world might end has been unleashed—from both Christian and secular theorists. These theories then quickly find people who are not equipped with the necessary experience and critical thinking skill to resist them. This causes much anxiety.

But what specifically do I mean by "date setting theories?"

Date setting, as I use the term, is any type of invention of an imagined event that must or should occur at a certain time. Typically it comes in the form of a stated date or year. However, it may be more vague such as “Damascus will be destroyed in the next 12–18 months.” That's date setting, too, because the person still claims some kind of special precognition for what the future will hold, even if their crystal ball is less exact.

The basis for these dates comes in several forms. Most popular is the use of the Bible. You've no doubt seen the many permutations of time calculations derived from numbers in the Bible. Such schemes include day-year/day for a year, “360 day prophetic years,” or even “week for years” (e.g. the idea that Daniel's 70 Weeks also work as 70 years). It is not off limits to claim a “word from God” or use Nostradamus, ancient calendars like the Mayan, or eclipse charts. I have even seen a stock market average (666, of course) at closing on some day made to be prophetic.

Whatever the basis of the argument, date setting always comes with a sense of inevitability. In other words, given all the evidence, it would make no sense if nothing happened by the end of the time period. The rationale is usually so compelling, unique or special that many fail to find fault with the theory, to poke holes in it. For example, sometimes date setters will say that "no other similar celestial alignment happens again for hundreds of years...so this must be fulfilled in our time." Since every generation has prognosticators arguing that “things are so bad that they can't go on much longer like this before the end,” it all seems reasonable that we should be the generation to see the end come.

Why Unlikely Doomsday Dates Spread

And therein lies their appeal and the key to their viral nature. A person studying Bible prophecy does it fully or partly because he hopes to find out when Jesus is coming back or when some other prophesied end times event will happen. Dates setters come along and offer hope that this is indeed possible. Unfortunately, just as a typical prophecy aficionado does not have the ability to work out a date himself, likewise he does not have the ability to debunk a typical doomsday date he hears. It is sufficiently complex and compelling that he cannot absolutely prove it wrong.

Since he cannot be sure it is wrong, he also feels that he cannot safely ignore it. What if the theory is right and we foolishly ignored it? Talk about the regret that would ensue. If this is the only warning from God and we could even be held accountable for being hardhearted. Stories of like cursed in the Bible when they disbelieved a prophet come to mind (2Ki 7:2;19-20). We reason it is better to be safe than sorry instead of ignoring the "warning."s

So what are we to do? We ask someone else what they think, if they can say if it is right or wrong, by emailing them or sharing it on social media. In this way the doomsday date gets spread widely, each person telling other friends and so on and so on and so on. This is why doomsday dates spread and become so rampant.

Ironically, most people spreading a doomsday date do not do so because they are convinced by it. In fact, they probably seriously doubt it. They just cannot for sure rule it out 100%. So they share it to see if anyone can help. Those who read it likewise get concerned or even scared and share it with others to see if they can debunk it. Where would we be without email and social media?

The Overlooked Track Record of Date Setting

It does seem somewhat reasonable as Jesus or other prophesied doomsday events must come at sometime. So why not at some proposed date? Anything is possible, right? Or so we reason or tell ourselves.

But is mere possibility enough? What I like to remind people is that something being possible does not make it worthy of our attention. For example, it's possible that a meteorite can smash through the roof of your house and cause massive damage or even kill you. Should you therefore invest in steel plating for your roof? Of course not, because you know that the chance of it happening is too remote to justify such expense. It's just not probable enough.

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Similarly, a specific disaster happening on the same date someone picked is highly improbable. It's even more improbable than a meteorite hitting your house. We can know this because if we look at the history of date setting. The track record of someone or something is a very good “predictor” of the future results or behavior. Let's review just a few of the dates that have been set in recent history to get a sense of the nature of date setting.

1843 – The Millerites

William Miller was a true forerunner of the modern part-time Bible prophecy aficionado who shares their ideas on the Internet. He was a prosperous farmer from New York who became convinced through his Bible study that the Bible revealed the timing of Christ's Second Coming. He wrote a paper in 1822 that “proved” that 1843 would be the year of the Second Advent. Through much preaching and publishing in periodicals he developed a large following of “Millerites.” It was reported that some sold all their possessions, dressed up in white robes and ascended the highest peaks around them so they would be closer to heaven. When nothing happened, the Millerites came up with a revised date for six months later. After that also failed they eventually disbanded. A little bit of trivia is that some of them formed what became the Seventh Day Adventist Church. (Note that this is not a slight against the SDA church at all as the point of this article is that Christians in general create and fall for doomsday dates until they learn better discernment.)

1910 – Halley's Comet

Comets have long been superstitiously considered a bad omen by mankind. The discovery in 1881 that comet tails contain a deadly gas related to cyanide (named cyanogen) added a scientific dimension to comet loathing. When it was realized that the earth would actually pass through Halley's tail in 1910, people speculated that we all might be poisoned. Several newspapers including the New York Times published this theory, causing widespread panic. People even bought “comet pills” and bottled air to survive the fated day of May 20, 1910. It turned out as most scientists had said. The gas would be too dispersed to do anything.

1982 – The Jupiter Effect

In 1974 John Gribbin, Ph.D., and Stephen Plageman wrote a best-selling book The Jupiter Effect about the coming planetary alignment of 1982. With seven of the planets including Jupiter aligned on the same side of the sun, they predicted that tidal forces would bring a number of catastrophes including a great earthquake. Twenty-five years later, Gribbins wrote of his failed theory, “...I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it."

1982 – Pat Robertson

Television evangelist Pat Robertson, like many Christians, believes that God gives him words or revelation on a continual basis. Based on one of these words, he proclaimed in a 1980 TV broadcast that, "I guarantee you by the end of 1982 there is going to be a judgment on the world.” He expected the Gog-Magog Russian invasion of Israel to kick off the Great Tribulation that year, preceded by the rapture of the just. This failed false prophecy did not seem to deter him as he ran for president six years later.

1988 – Edgar C. Whisenant's 88 Reasons Book

Whisenant was a former NASA engineer and Bible student who became convinced that the rapture would happen on Rosh Ha-Shana 1988. How convinced? The title of his book sums it up well: 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988. It sold 4.5 million copies and 300,000 more were sent to ministers across America. TBN even interrupted its programming for the three days that Rosh Ha-Shana covered that year with special programming on the rapture (including what to do if you were left behind).

When nothing happened, Whisenant did what the Millerites did and most every failed prognosticator does: he found a previously unnoticed flaw in his calculations and issue a new corrected date. Due to the “fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me” effect, he had much less success with getting people to pay attention. He kept going on creating dates every year or so for a several years until he finally seemed to give up before he died in 2001.

1997 – Comet Hale-Bopp

Another comet, another panic. This one did end in disaster—but not the one expected. Instead of the threat of cyanide gas, this time an amateur astronomer claimed to have photographed an alien spaceship following the comet. Although refuted by professional astronomers, the Coast to Coast A.M. show with Art Bell perpetuated the rumor by offering further evidence from an anonymous astrophysicist. A few months later the Heaven's Gate cult interpreted these rumors as a sign the earth was doomed to perish in “apocalyptic flames.” To escape this fate they decided to commit suicide when the comet was at its closest approach, thinking this desperate act would hitch them a ride on the spaceship. Thankfully outside of the cult, the earth was unaffected by the comet's passage.

2000 – Y2K

In the late '90s alarmists began to sound the trumpet about a computer problem first noted in the early 1970s. Many computers had a bug that would treat the dates past the year 2000 as 1900 dates. No one was really sure how bad the result would be, but many predicted serious problems such as power grid failure or nuclear war. In response, sales of guns, ammo, survival foods and goods, gold and silver spiked and some people moved out of the cities and prepared bunkers there.

Many Christians got caught up in the speculation. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and many other ministries suggested that this date could be the fulfillment of major Bible prophecies such as the return of Jesus or the destruction of America. January 2000 came and went with only minor disruptions. It is still argued whether this is because billions of dollars were spent worldwide to fix the problem or because the problem was overrated.

May 5, 2000 – “Menorah” Planetary Alignment

May 5, 2000 marked a rare planetary alignment of the sun, moon and five planets (see NASA chart) dubbed a “Menorah Alignment” (a menorah has seven lamps). Such cosmic alignments are perennial inspirations for doomsday dates (2012 is based on another rare alignment) and this one was no different. Richard Noone was one person so concerned about it that he authored a book in 1997 titled "5/5/2000 Ice: the Ultimate Disaster" to explain why. Noone believed that the Antarctic ice mass would be three miles thick by May 5, 2000 and this ice would be shifted by a pole shift right to the equator. Noone argued that previous pole shifts had caused previous ice ages and "almost unimaginable results" would happen again.

I never read the book, but I wonder if he addressed why the stronger alignment of all nine planets in 1982 as detailed The Jupiter Effect did not cause any catastrophes.

2003 – Planet X

May 15th, 2003 was a doomsday date based on a very unique source: extraterrestrials. Nancy Lieder of Zetatalk claimed to be channeling aliens that told her Planet X would pass earth bringing disasters on that date. If you were active on the Internet or had friends who were (like me) you might of heard of this one.

Since nothing happened, other dates for Planet X have been set by the "Planet X Community" since then. The latest they have picked is 2012. That's right, the date of the Mayan calendar's long count cycle end. Any guesses as to how successful this one will be?

BTW, if it was not for this doomsday date, this article might not exist. The reason is due to the silver lining of date setting. It is provocative and gets attention. It forces people to stop and look into some big questions and open up their Bibles (something most Christians normally don't do much). Myself, I was already studying the Bible intently by 2002, but this date for a doomsday Planet X to come (May 15, 2003) got me wondering if the mysterious Wormwood of Rev 8 was not a prophecy of the same thing (instead of the Chernobyl disaster)? The rest is history and I wrote my first book Planet X in Bible Prophecy (later expanded to Know the Future).

2008 – Ron Weinland

Ronald Weinland, pastor of the Church of God - PKG, claimed to not only be a prophet of God, but also, along with his wife, the Two Witnesses (of Revelation 11). In his book 2008: God's Final Witness he stated that “By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, or it will have begun its collapse and no longer exist as an independent nation within six months after that time." His book was a free download read by many.

2011 – Harold Camping

People began emailing me about Harold Camping and May 21st, 2011. Camping predicted “Judgment Day” and the rapture on that date. Camping's claims (“THE BIBLE GUARANTEES IT”) were easy to handle because he was a repeat offender date setter. In 1994 he predicted Christ's return for the end of the eight day Jewish festival of Sukkot (on September 27). So all I have to do is direct people to a link documenting this and instantly his prediction loses its allure because it comes from a failed prophet of doom.

Thus, it's no surprise that his prediction failed. As covered below, a big reason that doomsday dates get a hold on people is because they seem new and reasonable (even when they are not). When you find out this is not the first doomsday date this person has tried, you become negatively biased against whatever they are predicting now. Harold Camping's prediction was in opposition to what Jesus taught about figuring out the date of the end. Nevertheless, I personally received many inquiries from people wondering whether to believe it or not.

What I said to reassure them and get them to not worry about that date is what the rest of this article will teach.

P.S. After May 21st date failed, Camping highlighted another date of Oct 21st, 2011 for the "destruction of the world" which he had waiting in the wings already. This same bait-and-switch response is how the Millerites handled their first failed date(covered below). I wonder if Harold Camping will ever figure out that the problem is not with his calculations, but with his entire premise about the Bible being a doomsday date generator. See below...

2011 – Comet Elenin

Discovered by Russian astronomer Leonard Elenin in December, 2010, this 3-4 km sized comet will come closest to earth in October, 2011. But not that close; about as close as Venus comes to earth or 0.23 AU. Nevertheless, this comet had been the subject of much doomsday speculation and conspiracy theory for 2011. Nothing happened with it.

2012 – Mayan Calendar

I already wrote in a previous article about the Mayan Calendar 2012. But Recently it got worse for 2012 as it came up in the news that 2012 may be based on an erroneous assumption causing it to be off by 50 or 100 years. However, other experts like Dr. Allen Christenson say there is no error. The date is confirmed through major historical and astronomical events. Nevertheless, he is not a believer in any of the doomsday speculation surrounding 2012, even if it is the right date.

2015 — 4 Blood Moon Theory

After Mark Biltz noticed that there were four lunar eclipses across 2014-2015, he wondered if it was what Revelation 6 and Joel 2 were referring to. Many people piled on like John Hagee and it became a huge book and video industry.

2017 — "Revelation 12 Sign" Theory

Like Mark Biltz before him, Scottie Clarke noticed a rare astronomical alignment that seemed to match something in the Bible. He thought Revelation 12's woman clothed with the Sun was being fulfilled in 2017. Since Revelation 12 predicts nothing around that sign but ties it to the first coming of Jesus, it was left to the imagination what would happen. Of course, again, nothing expected did.

Review of Past Date Setting Attempts

What can we learn from a review of so many failed date setting attempts? A couple important things that everyone new to date setting wishes they knew right up front.

1. Clever Predictions Are Not New – First, contrary to the impression that someone new to doomsday predictions has, claims of being able to predict when something will happen using the Bible or other methods like astronomy are not novel. Every source of insight has been tried before multiple times whether it be the Bible and other ancient writings, or the motion of the heavenly bodies. There is no need to suspend disbelief or give the benefit of the doubt anymore for these approaches based on calculations or observations. Such things do not tell us the future just like Jesus said that even he, the Word of God (the Bible plus more),

2. "Bible-based" predictions fail, too, because they are invented and manmade – The other key insight is to realize that even the Bible-based date setting always fail. Why? It's because they are still fundamentally invented prophecies just like the non-Bible based ones are, such as the Y2K 2000 or Mayan Calendar 2012 predictions. They are invented because rather than take a literal prophetic event like say the clear destruction of Damascus (Isaiah 17:1), they are usually taking a verse in prophecy and inventing a new meaning for it, outside its context. We last saw this in 2017 with the "Revelation 12 Sign" prophecy. It took a sign in the sky literally related to Jesus' birth and decided because it was appearing in the sky again, that it must mean his Second Coming or something else "great" (it says it's a "great sign"after all).

Sadly, it can take years of trial and error before a prophecy aficionado realizes the above two points. Once they do, date setting loses its appeal and its hold on them. Nevertheless, they may only reluctantly let go of it because we all naturally want date setting to work. We want to know when things are going to happen. We further expect that Bible prophecy should be able to tell us this if nothing else can. If it cannot, then what good is it?

Overlooked, Misunderstood Words of Jesus About Date Setting

We cannot see what Bible prophecy is “good for” until we first completely let go of using it for specific date setting or the expectation that Bible prophecy should tell us the exact answer to “when?” Now, if what I have said above was not convincing enough, then maybe what Jesus had to say will do the job. He told us what prophecy was for, including first telling us what it is not for—finding out when. In so many words, Jesus stated that no man could know the time of the end until it was upon them.

Matthew 24:36 (HCSB) — Now concerning that day and hour no one knows—neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son—except the Father only.

Matthew 24:50 (ESV) — the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know

Matthew 25:13 (HCSB) — Therefore be alert, because you don’t know either the day or the hour.

To some people these words are pretty clear. To others not. To be sure, prophecy aficionados who set dates have all heard these famous words of Jesus. (People who disagree with date setters are sure to quote these words to them.) So why do Bible theorists not see or accept what the words plainly mean?

My Misunderstanding in 1999

I can explain that from personal experience. I used to be one of those people who disregarded these words. I had just started studying prophecy seriously in 1999 for the same reason that so many do. I wanted to see if all those figures in Daniel and Revelation did not reveal the timing of the end of the age. I knew the above verses very well but I had twisted their words into a meaning that was detached from their immediate context.

Here's how: I had a very good pastor who I trusted. He gave a sermon once on prophecy in which he quoted that verse about no man knowing the day or hour. He commented, “...but it doesn't say no man knows the year.” Upon hearing that, I thought, “well I'll be darned, I never considered it that way, but he's right! So Jesus meant we can figure out the timing to some degree, just not with pinpoint precision.” This idea gave me the license to forge ahead and try to wring a date out of the Bible despite what Jesus had said. (In 1999, I came up with the short-lived idea that 2000-2007 could be the end. By 2001 I ruled this theory out.)

In defense of my pastor, he was not alone in his thinking. There are other ideas people adopt which end up neutralizing Jesus' admonition to not treat the Bible as a doomsday date factory. For example, another common teaching today is that “of that day and hour knoweth no man” is a Hebrew idiom for the Feast of Trumpets. I think this could be true and can readily explain why Jesus used the complicated phrasing he did, rather than just “time” which is what the day or hour is equivalent to in its New Testament usage. However, the plain meaning of the words would still remain and could not be contradicted.

What “No Man Knows” Means In Context

The problem with any such theories that modify the meaning of Jesus' statement, is, as I mentioned above, that they ignore the immediate context and usage of this phrase. Jesus use the phrase three times: at the end of the Parable of the Fig Tree (Mt 24:32-36), the Parable of the Faithful Servant (Mt 24:42-51), and the Parable of the Ten Virgins (Mt 25:1-13). Every time Jesus used this phrase, it was in the same kind of context with the same implied meaning. He mentions the “no man knows” in the context of “stay alert,” “don't backslide,” and “stay ready.”

Matthew 24:42-44 (HCSB) — Therefore be alert, since you don’t know what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this: If the homeowner had known what time the thief was coming, he would have stayed alert and not let his house be broken into. 44 This is why you also must be ready, because the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Matthew 24:48-50 (HCSB) — But if that wicked slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delayed,’ 49 and starts to beat his fellow slaves, and eats and drinks with drunkards, 50 that slave’s master will come on a day he does not expect and at an hour he does not know.

Matthew 25:11-13 (HCSB) — “Later the rest of the [unprepared] virgins also came and said, ‘Master, master, open up for us!’ 12 “But he replied, ‘I assure you: I do not know you!’ Therefore be alert, because you don’t know either the day or the hour.

If you want it any clearer than that, Jesus spelled it out again to the apostles after his resurrection. That time he did not use the words day or hour but actually used the word “time”:

Acts 1:7 (HCSB) — He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or periods that the Father has set by His own authority.

Day or hour means time. Either he meant we can't know the exact time from Scripture. Or nobody could know it at all so far in advance back then. Here we are 2000 years later and with the benefit of hindsight we know that at the time that Jesus spoke, they were indeed far off from the end. They did not yet even have the year numbering system employed by date setters. (Can you imagine date setting back then without calendar year numbers to map their projections upon?)

What Is Bible Prophecy For, If Not "Date Generation?"

Notice also in Acts 1:7 the mention, again, that the Father alone knows timing information. People seem to doubt that is true even when this is stated also in the Olivet Discourse where Jesus added that even he didn't know. The Father only really means the Father only.

Now consider who Jesus is that he was left in the dark on this. Jesus is the Word of God made flesh (John 1:14). He is the one who transmitted the Book of Revelation to John (Rev 1:1) and is seen therein as the one who opened up the sealed scroll in Revelation (Rev 5:1-6:1). If he, being that great, did not know when, how is it that we have mere mortal men who think they can know what Jesus could not using the Bible?

They forget that the Bible, compared to Jesus, is just a written subset of the entire Word of God that has ever been spoken or shared. If Jesus as the “full” Word of God did not know, it is illogical to expect to using a subset of the Word do him one better. (And the same logic applies to those who think God is telling them directly extra-Biblical revelation on the timing that Jesus himself was not told.)

By continually trying to do the impossible, they are missing what prophecy is really good for. The Olivet Discourse spells this purpose out right next to where it tells us to give up on knowing “when” far enough in advance to be useful. (I say “far enough in advance” because Daniel 12 says when the Abomination of Desolation happens we will know we have 1290 days until Christ's Second Coming. Unfortunately, Jesus said we will be fleeing by that point anyway (Mt 24:15-16), so the 1290 day warning allows no room for any of the apathy or backsliding that knowing the date far in advance would encourage.)

The stated purpose is to give us a list of events to watch for that tell us when the end is finally near. It compares these events preceding Jesus' coming just as green leaves appearing on the fig tree and all the trees before summer arrives. Likewise if we don't see any of the listed end time events, Jesus' coming is not near and we do not have to worry about it being imminent. God loves his servants and is going to give them plenty of warning and plenty time to take action when the time comes.

2018 Update: Date Setting vs. Prophecy Invention

What I wrote above represents my understanding and position on the issue of date setting for around a decade. It's still helpful for readers relatively new to prophecy so they understand that date setting theories are nothing to be deceived or impressed by. Be cautious.

What is missing above that I failed to realize for so long was that date setting itself was not really the main issue or wrong of itself. The problem is with what the dates are attached to. They are attached to invented prophecies coming from the minds of persuasive, creative and often brilliant Christian men. When these men fail to understand the prophecies of the Bible literally and comprehensively, they tend to take an isolated piece out of its context and inject some of their brilliant insights from other fields like chronology or astronomy. For example, ignore what kind of blood moon the Bible is talking about and use the one coming up this year because it seems shiny and special for reasons X, Y and Z.

I say date setting is not wrong of itself because the prophets of the Bible set dates. Jesus set a date and said by one generation what he had just described would come to pass. Forty years later it (partially) did (30 AD + 40 = the 70 AD destruction of the Temple).

The difference? Jesus and the prophets attached dates exclusively to what the Word of God predicted already and never to their own imaginations or inventions loosely based on the Word of God. In contrast to this, Christians take a Scripture, pagan calendar or an astronomical anomaly and weave a new theory out if it using their own intellect and creativity and attach a date to that. Thus, things have gone afoul before the date is ever added because of they deviate from the Scripture-only or literal interpretation only.

Only in recent years did I begin to zero in on "prophecy invention" as being the real issue, not the date setting. Jesus never prohibited date setting. Jesus stated that no man knew the date then, nor did he at that time. I think this means the Bible did not and does not contain it, either or he would have known as the Word of God made flesh. He never said no one would ever learn when the timing was later and attach it to an actual prophecy already in the Word of God.

In other words, the two guidelines I can share for now are:

  1. Don't invent prophecies (even based on Bible prophecy) for your date setting
  2. Don't use the Bible to calculate or conclude a single date (it can help to narrow rule out potential dates).
  3. This means to be successful at date-setting requires using literal Bible prophecy events (only, no invention) attached to dates that are based upon the Bible + necessary further revelation from God.

My Own Date Setting From My Dreams

The important distinction above between date setting and prophecy invention was key for me to recognize because, much to my chagrin and surprise, God would begin to give me Biblical insights and special further revelation (like #3 above) that would lead me to do my own date setting.

Yikes. After two decades of actively debunking date setting theories, I was convicted to consider sharing the year I felt would be the commencement of end time prophecy myself. It was uncomfortable at first until I saw the positive effects it had on people who I had already taught repentance to. They repented harder because time might be short. The urgency helped them to focus and become less worldly. That encouraged me to go ahead and write up my convictions on the 2026 end timing for a wider audience of all my supporters.

Of course my date-setting is only attached to the literal prophecies I had already come to understand rather than some new invention like I had witnessed others do for decades.

It started in 2012 on my birthday. God started on that day to give me prophetic dreams. They came in triplets or pairs to confirm each other, much like Joseph's or Pharaoh's dreams in Genesis did. Just like those, the dreams are never as plain as one would hope. Some of the meaning is immediately clear while years later other implications of the dreams come to light, either upon further insights, reflection or through the illumination of later dreams.

Since sharing my convictions about 2026 from my dreams, God has led me to see more I overlooked from the same dreams that indicate a couple big things for 2022 that is found in literal Bible prophecy.

Conclusion: Judge the Date, Not the Date-Setter =)

Believe me it was uncomfortable to branch out in this way because I knew what would happen already: Some long time readers would be offended and some new readers would make a snap judgment that I'm like all the date setters listed above and accuse me of wrongdoing.

Either way, readers will miss how I am different and see me as a hypocrite or setting myself up for embarrassment or a fall. I have lost readers over it. One man sent me a campaign of a half a dozen emails over this issue. At first he was asking for clarification, and once it was given, then commenced to plead with me to stop sharing in this new area. He could only see date setting wrong or doomed to fail no matter how it was couched because to him there was only:

  1. "Thus saith the LORD..."
  2. "Thus saith Tim..."

He saw no room for:

  1.  "This is what Tim is convicted to share with the body (1Co 14:26) based on his understanding of the dreams he knows came from God. Test it for yourself per 1Co 14:29"

I don't blame or judge him; I used to see it the same way he did, black and white, leaving out "we see through a glass darkly" (1Co 13:12). It's hard not to with the nearly 100% failure record of Christians who do set dates. What he missed and I missed as well is that sharing dates for non-invented, actual Bible prophecies is not wrong if you feel God has given you special revelation about literal prophetic events in Scripture.

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13 comments
Brian Sutton - March 18, 2017

I was saved in 1978 on the rapture taking place any day now ,we had never heard of such a thing. My wife and 4 kids & I were terrified but is sobered us up with Gods Word. Today at aged 80 I am still reading such things as the rapture coming any day. Our kids all back slid did not pursue good work or educations.

I have never really backslid, still active in going to church even though church does not save us. I am praying for a home church as I am still very active.

I have gone from pre trib as we were told in 1978, to mid trib, but now to full trib as I am not worried about it at all.

Churches have stopped preaching on end times now .One pastor told me the reason why, is that it is too confusing with too many scenarios & doctrines.

I have Hilton Suttons end time DVDs that I used to believe.

Thanks, Tim, for all your input to Christians mate

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Mike - March 13, 2018

Tim, so do you think that we are in the end times? I’ve been confuse on this topic for a while. Also, great article! I came across this article looking for an in-between article that’s not full of Christians date setting, saying that the rapture will happen at so and so time because they found evidence in the Bible or because God “told” them (He obviously didn’t) the date of the rapture. Then there is the exact opposite side of the spectrum composed of secularist atheists who are quick to claim that Christians are lunatics and that it for sure won’t happen. Thanks for posting this article, it really helped me clear things up. God bless you Tim!

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    Tim McHyde - March 30, 2018

    Mike, the only date setting that can work is special revelation based, like dreams, as the Bible does not have enough information to pinpoint the date. But if someone does not understand prophecy literally and thinks, say, that the rapture is the next event “this Rosh HaShanah” etc., obviously their dreams are coming from some other source!

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Jose Luis Martinez - March 31, 2018

I bought your book and receive your mailings and read them with “a grain of salt”-I am a believer in Elohim but am no longer a Christian. I don’t normally get involved in these topics but I feel “compelled” to say seems to me you’re treading on thin ice. This is not a suggestion to you nor do I intend to discourage you from your faith-my experience tells me Elohim not only works in “mysterious” ways but also “hides.” But I do think it “fishy” you only share what you consider “important” topics with financial “supporters.” That is tantamount to breaking Prov 23:23 “buy the truth and sell it not.” “Donations” to you should be voluntary-NOT a gimmick to get someone to send you money so you can share your “dreams”. Goes against the grain of the prophets-if so be it that Elohim has granted you such a blessing.

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    Tim McHyde - March 31, 2018

    Jose, I’m sorry me doing what God has directed me to do offends you like Yeshua’s obedience offended the Pharisees. Proverbs 23:23 is not a prohibition of selling truth; would you rather people made a living out of selling falsehoods? Also when God miraculously gave the widow with Elijah oil, according to your rules about what comes from God, she should not have sold that. God told her through Elijah to sell it! God also said Gospel workers should be paid, in essence commanding them to sell the truth (1Cor 9:14). Do you go to work and tell them “Keep the check?” Maybe you’re independently wealthy and do. I’m not. Why do you think Jesus said to the apostles he sent out to teach the Gospel “the worker is worthy of his wages?”

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Kimberly Derienz - March 31, 2018

The Revelation 12 sign was a sign from God.. it has been fulfilled… yes we read to much into it believeing it possibles going to be the rapture… but as we know it was not and no one I know ever said it was a definite…. the sign is for Israel letting Israel know the time they are in and what will take place soon…. so I believe the revelation 12 sign has been fulfilled… we are all watching and waiting for or Lord to come get us in the clouds and this has woke many people up and continues to bring more people to Christ… there is nothing wrong with longing for our savior to come, and soon He will… so if people want to keep looking and finding possible times the rapture may happen I say let them… at least they are diligently searching through the scriptures bring more people to our Lord and educating a lot of people… I just don’t understand why people have to knock people all the time..

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    Tim McHyde - March 31, 2018

    Kimberly, I don’t agree with knocking people and if I did, please show me where so I can fix it. What I do knock is theories, like the theory that Rev 12 would be fulfilled in 2017. The Woman alignment of Rev 12 happens regularly in the sky, but Jesus was born only once which the chapter ties to that sign in context.

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Paul - March 31, 2018

Tim,
I know you won’t like this post, but it does look fishy and self serving that you will only will share your dreams that you believe God gave you to people who support you with money. After all, if God gave these dreams to you, don’t you think he would want you to share it with the Body of Christ for our edification at no cost? They are, after all, HIS DREAMS, so why should you take the credit for them? Do you think Jeremiah, Joel, or Isaiah got paid for their prophecies?

I’m sure you will defend yourself with some answer, but I believe this tactic cheapens your message and I believe it shows your lack of faith in God to provide for your needs , and that you have to attempt to manipulate us to get our money.

I warned you, you wouldnt like this message. Having said all of this, I still love and respect your work, even though I don’t agree with all of your conclusions or interpretations. Okay, let me have it. Shalom.

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    Tim McHyde - March 31, 2018

    Paul, Good to hear from you again. Been what, 5 years since you bought my book and were on the forum?

    What you said is nothing new as you can see by reading my response on the support page to the question of what the Bible says on charging. I am highly interested whenever people have a strong reaction to my writing, either positive or negative. I am glad for the opportunity to learn or improve from all feedback, accepting already that I can’t please everyone because Jesus did not either, even while doing perfectly “only what God told him to do” (John 5:19). Like him, I feel that Yehovah is guiding my steps, and inspired the idea to set up the support team where I share some further teachings and inspirations only with supporters. I want you to know that this idea came after much prayer on what to do to take care of my family while writing this next book that God has inspired Katrina and I to write. My conscience is clear that this membership content model is ethical, fair, and above reproach. Just as “fences make good neighbors” and you would not accuse your neighbor of “manipulation” for his fence, a fence around some of my content helps to make supportive readers out of merely appreciative readers who, although well-intentioned (like you, I’m sure), are generally too rushed or apathetic to stop and donate for what they just enjoyed reading. Can you relate?

    Now you may not like what I say next, either. I say this in love and not in a spirit of retaliation so if the shoe fits, then consider it; if not, don’t: People who truly “love and respect my work” enough to support me financially don’t accuse me of being “wrong, faithless, cheap, selfish, shady, fishy, manipulative.” It’s only people who have either never sent me a dime (99%) or on rare occasions like you have bought the book years or even a decade ago (1%) who dare to suggest I’m wrong in how I choose to support my family. In other words, supporters understand that I have a right to receive money for my work whether I am writing an interpretation of my dreams or an interpretation of the Bible. That’s because of the time and work I put into creating this content and what Jesus and Paul said about Gospel workers deserving to be paid (1Co 9:14). They follow this universal ethic despite the overwhelming Christian culture that conditions so many to act in a way that shouts “give us your teachings always free like Jesus and Paul did or we will think/speak evil of you.”

    BTW, if it’s wrong to sell writing about my interpretation and conclusions from my dreams that come from God to support myself, why did Elisha tell the widow to sell the oil that miraculously came from God to support herself (1Ki 4:1-7)? Where is this universal law in the Bible that you cannot sell anything that God gave you? (There is a principle that you cannot charge others for miraculous healings through the power of God in you to heal, but that’s it.)

    Now, if you were to meet me in person and wanted to hear what I see as the roadmap for the years ahead based on my Bible studies and dreams, I would speak about it freely, too, just like the prophets you listed did. It costs me nothing to chat (and have already done so with house guests). However, to my knowledge those prophets never had a family of four including a special needs adult son to pay for, nor hardware and services costs for the storage and transmission of their messages like I do. I think the comparison of me to prophets is woefully misplaced on so many levels that, if I’m honest, the impression it leaves me with is that the person saying that simply wants to lash out at me in retaliation for not being able to freely access something of mine that greatly interested them. Resentful, they come up with a hasty justification for making me the bad guy in this somehow. That’s how it seems. That said, please understand I don’t know you or your heart and only share this observation based on the type of people who have the same perspective of me (based on only my writing) that you did. And now you know my perspective of you based on not only your writing but also your withholding of financial support for my work that you say you love and respect. I admit this does not lead me to think very highly of you or especially of your opinion on what I charge or don’t charge for. Sorry.

    I hope my impression is wrong and I’m way off for your own sake because to be generous to your Bible teachers was Paul’s command (Gal 6:6) and it is even a blessing when you give to righteous teachers (Mt 10:41-42), something I strive to be. I know I have been blessed greatly by God for my generosity in writing free articles, emails and answers like this to people like you and wish the same prosperity for yourself. As far as I am concerned, the more people misunderstand me, accuse me and say bad things about me (after I have been generous to them), the more blessed I am by God for it (Mt 5:10-12). That’s why I can say there is no retaliation in my words back to you; you’ve blessed me. I share reciprocal observations only in love and because you asked me to give you a frank answer. I hope this response helps you and others reading it who thought the same thing you did.

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      David Price - April 2, 2018

      Tim,

      I was once one that was eager to read what you had shared in the “Supporters Section”, but I waited until I could afford it and am now fully enjoying the additional information. I, in no way felt slighted for not being able to read the additional content without supporting you.
      As you have stated, we are not required to pay a tithe to the church, but if we support what they are doing then give and support the work and the preacher. I believe we are doing the same thing for you, but without the church building!
      Another way to consider it, these postings are booklets that are being purchased in advance!
      God Bless, and keep on trusting him!

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ROY KING - April 1, 2018

Tim,

I was the electrical/ instrument engineering manager at a Bechtel in the late 90’s. I can guarantee you the billion+ dollars spent is what kept serious repercussions from occurring January 2000. Bechtel revisited every programmable instrument used in chemical and petrochemical plants we designed and corrected many which could have caused problems. This effort took many months. This may not have anything to do with prophecy but the effort paid for itself.

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Adeola Oguntoyinbo - April 1, 2018

Hello Tim.
I’m sick and tired of lies I’m been fed with in all this cable network business.

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ROY KING - April 1, 2018

Tim,

When Jesus sent the disciples out he told them – if you come to a town and they will not feed and shelter you shake the dust off your feet and leave. This is clear enough!

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