In the intriguing Ezekiel 38 & 39 Gog/Magog war prophecies, God has hidden his meaning similar to how Jesus hid his with his parables (Mk 4:10-11). Since these two consecutive chapters are so similar, the consensus is that they are the same prophecy of a single attack on Israel by the same "Gog." Find out why there are actually two Gogs and two wars indicated there through a parallel prophecy in Revelation—1000 years apart.
Questioning the "Gog Magog War" Interpretation
Could it be that the majority are wrong about "The Gog Magog War" of Ezekiel 38-39 being one soon-to-come war between the Russia and Israel? Let's consider the popular approach to Ezekiel 38 and 39:
Most assume the two chapters speak of the same war. Using current events as their guide, they focus on identifying who Gog is or the location of Magog. This approach usually leads to the wrong conclusion about identities and also the timing. That's why people have been thinking for decades that this war is near or already under development—and yet it never materializes. Why not?
It could have something to do with the assumption the two chapters are the same war. It seems unnatural that God would inspire Ezekiel to write about two such similar Gog attacks back to back and not make it clear to the reader.
Certainly God would want to eliminate any obstacles to understanding his Word lest people get discouraged and give up. Certainly he would not make anything hard on purpose. Or would he?
Did God purposely inspire some passages in a way that would easily lead most readers to misunderstand them in order to "seal" things up? The Bible actually teaches this principle. I'm convinced that Ezekiel 38-39 is a good example of this aspect of the Bible that makes Bible prophecy so hard and confusing to everyone.
The Difficult Bible?
The suggestion that God has any intention other than that we all read and easily understand the Bible may sound absurd or at least counter-intuitive. However, the Bible plainly declares this. Both the OT (Isa 6:9-10) and NT (Mk 4:11; Mt 13:11; Lk 8:10; 10:21-24) reveal that God's word is difficult and mysterious on purpose. The reason given is in order to hide its secrets from the masses so that they would not all be convicted (yet) "to turn and be healed" (John 12:40).
Since idea runs counter to what you would expect, it helps greatly to be aware of it as you attempt to read the Bible. Studying the Bible is hard enough without having the wrong expectation that it should be easy and "very clear" (as you no doubt have heard some claim about what they think the Bible teaches).
Let's face it, the Bible is anything but easy. It is a huge and a very difficult book containing more red herrings, mysteries, enigmas and puzzles than you would think.
An example of the Bible containing mysteries is found in Revelation 13:18. It enigmatically says, "let him that has understanding count the number of the beast...a man...his number is 666." That's a riddle. It does not come out and explain it, but it can be deduced that the "understanding" needed relates to how to apply Hebrew gematria to a name, especially a modern name from a non-Hebrew language. If you find a ruler whose name computes using the right values for the letters to 666, you may have identified a possible candidate for the Beast.
Of course, it must be stated that the inclusion of riddles in the Bible does not mean one needs to be a scholar to understand its basic simple truths (salvation, grace, forgiveness, repentance, etc). It just means that if you dare to understand end time prophecy and thereby know the future or other deep mysteries that only Bible prophecy can reliably reveal, then be on your guard for some curve balls in what you are reading.
The Gog and Magog Single War Misconception
Ezekiel 38-39's Gog/Magog prophecies would not be categorized as one of the simple truths that are easy to understand.
If you have studied this subject at all, you probably have heard many opinions on who Magog represents today and what the timing of the Magog attack on Israel is. When the Cold War was raging, few doubted that the land of Magog was Russia. Today with Islam having become the new prophetic go-to bogeyman, some propose Arabs for Gog or Islamic lands for Magog. (This is also why now several Islamic political figures are in vogue as Antichrist candidates, something that was unheard of before.)
Once you understand the true meaning of these prophecies, it's easy in hindsight to see why they were so difficult. God has ingeniously placed two very similar prophecies right next to each other in the Bible. For several good reasons, most readers naturally assume that these two consecutive chapters are one prophecy speaking of one event.
First and foremost, the chapters have many major parallel elements. Both speak of an attack on the land of Israel from the land of Magog or Meshech and Tubal. Both involve many nations besides just Magog. Both wars end quickly with the complete defeat of Magog through God's intervention.
To make matters worse, the name of the person leading the attack is also the same in both chapters: Gog of Magog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. If it only said that the same nation was attacking Israel more than once, it would not be so tempting to merge the prophecies. Israel's neighbors have attacked Israel repeatedly throughout history. "History repeats itself" as we all have heard said.
But the fact that we apparently have the same man leading the attack in both chapters makes it less likely that there are two separate attacks. A man only lives so long and preparing for another attack takes time. Plus, in both chapters, Gog and his nation are soundly defeated. The saying, "he who fights and runs away lives to fight another day" does not apply here. Thus, it seems reasonable to conclude that there is only one attack by Gog on Israel and it is expressed twice in the two chapters, just as the most popular accepted theory says.
How To Compare Bible Passages
The "One Gog/Magog War" interpretation seems reasonable until you dig deeper and find an overlooked difference between the two chapters. Of course, it's not enough to just find any difference in the details between the two chapters. You need to find a clear contradiction between two passages that renders them not just different but incompatible.
For example, it would be a mistake to say that since one chapter mentions Gomer joining with Magog and the other does not, that therefore the chapters speak of two different events. The Bible does not work that way. If you attempt to use that type of "unforgiving matching logic," you'll come up with all kinds of incorrect theories, such as there being more than one rapture, or more than one 144,000, etc.
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Instead, when you read the Bible you have to use a more flexible or forgiving matching logic so that you merge compatible differences between accounts. If one passage mentions details A and B and another passage says B and C then rather than judge them not the same event (A, B ≠ B, C), you have to consider the possibility that they might together be describing the same entity with aspects A, B and C. The harmony of the Gospels, or the attempt to merge what is known for sure to be the parallel passages of Jesus life, uses similar matching.
Nevertheless, there just so happens to be an irreconcilable difference between Ezekiel 38 and 39. The difference has to do with who is in the land of Israel at the time of each war.
Let's look at the two chapters in detail to highlight this difference.
Ezekiel 38's Israel: Completely Regathered, Secure, Unwalled
Ezekiel 38 gives special details about the status of Israel when Gog attacks.
Ezekiel 38:8, 11-12 (HCSB) — 8 After a long time you will be summoned. In the last years you will enter a land that has been restored from war and [1] regathered from many peoples to the mountains of Israel, which had long been a ruin. They were brought out from the peoples, and all of them now [2] live securely. 11 You will say, ‘I will go up against [2] a land of open villages; I will come against a tranquil people who are [2] living securely, all of them living [2] without walls and without bars or gates— 12 in order to seize spoil and carry off plunder, to turn your hand against ruins now inhabited and against a [1] people gathered from the nations, who have been acquiring cattle and possessions and who live at the center of the world.’
The Israel described by Ezekiel 38 is very different from today's Israel in two major ways (highlighted in these verses with bracketed numbers):
- Completely Regathered - Magog attacks an Israel regathered completely from the nations. The importance of this might be lost on those who do not understand the "Two Houses of Israel" in the Bible compared to who is living in the land of Israel today. Israel today is inhabited only by the Jews, about half of the worldwide population. The Jews themselves are only some of all Israel. They are the (southern) House of Judah (Judah, Benjamin and Levi). The Lost Ten Tribes (LTT) or (northern) House of Israel makes up the bulk of all Israel. The LTT are still lost or mixed in among the nations where God scattered them in punishment (Dt 4:27; 30:3; Ne 1:8; Jer 31:10; Eze 6:8; 12:5; Joel 3:2; Zec 7:14; Jer 37:21).
- Defenseless Yet Secure - Before the attack, Israel is living peacefully without any fortifications or thought to defense at all. Of course, this is the complete opposite of the picture of Israel security today. In fact, ever since the founding of the modern nation of Israel in 1948, Israel has been at war or preparing for war with her enemies or suffering from civilian terrorist attacks. As a result, military service is mandatory for both male and female Israelis. Israel even has constructed a literal defensive barrier hundreds of miles long consisting of part "wall" and part fence.
Clearly Ezekiel 38 does not describe the Israel of today. More importantly, as we shall see, it cannot be describing the same Israel as Ezekiel 39 describes Gog attacking.
Ezekiel 39's Israel: Partial Israel, Before the Regathering
Now, unlike Ezekiel 38, Ezekiel 39 does not give any details about the "mountains of Israel" that Gog attacks. But it does describe major developments directly resulting from God's victory. These changes indirectly tell us what we need to know about the nation of Israel attacked by Gog in Ezekiel 39.
Ezekiel 39:20-26 (HCSB) — 20 At My table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, of mighty men and all the warriors.” 21 “I will display My glory among the nations, and all [1] the nations will see the judgment I have executed and the hand I have laid on them. 23 And [2] the nations will know that the house of Israel went into exile on account of their iniquity...25 “So this is what the Lord GOD says: Now [3] I will restore the fortunes of Jacob and have compassion on the whole house of Israel... 26 They will feel remorse for, their disgrace... when they [3] live securely in their land with no one to frighten them. 22 [4] From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the LORD their God.
In reading this passage, it's important to realize that it is a direct continuation of the war prophecy and not some disconnected tangent as OT prophecies often digress into. It tells us four things that happen as a result:
- Firstly, the nations know that their defeat in the war was judgment by God's hand to his glory.
- Secondly, they will know why Israel was exiled by God. We do not have to wonder how they will know that because of the third change...
- Thirdly, God now regathers Israel to their land and causes them to live securely with no enemies. (This is the same regathering as Jer 23:7-8, Ezekiel 37:15-28 and many other passages.)
- Fourthly, Israel "knows their God from that day forward." (Makes a lot of sense since God said they won't be exiled and scattered again.)
Thus, we can see that the regathered and secure status of Israel in Ezekiel 38 is a direct result of the Ezekiel 39 war and aftermath! If Ezekiel 39 is a prerequisite to the conditions of Ezekiel 38 then obviously this means that these two wars cannot be the same war but must be two separate wars.
Further, the sequence must be that Ezekiel 39 comes first then after some time Ezekiel 38 follows. In other words, these prophecies are listed in non-chronological order, as OT prophecies are apt to do. To put it plainly, we then must have these two wars in order:
- Ezekiel 39 = Gog/Magog War #1
- Ezekiel 38 = Gog/Magog War #2
Finding the Timing of Gog/Magog War #2
As promised, it's not hard to figure out the timing of both Gog/Magog wars once you realize they are not the same war. However, the second war is the easier of the two to figure out, so we'll start with that.
If Gog/Magog War #2 happens to a safe, secure, regathered Israel, then there is only place where it can fit. The Second Exodus regathering of all Israel takes place at the start of and during the Millennium (Jer 16:14-15). The Millennium is known as 1000 years of peace. That means the war must come sometime after the Millennium ends.
The only post-mil war mentioned in the Bible is also the only other prophecy outside of Ezekiel talking about a Gog/Magog attack: Revelation 20. This makes it a clear parallel prophecy to Ezekiel 38:
Revelation 20:7-9 (HCSB) — 7 When the 1,000 years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the sea. 9 They came up over the surface of the earth and surrounded the encampment of the saints, the beloved city [Jerusalem, Israel]. Then fire came down from heaven and consumed them.
Some might object that Ezekiel 38 describes the war ending differently than Revelation 20 because it lists several things other than fire sent against Gog:
Ezekiel 38:22 (HCSB) — I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed. I will pour out torrential rain, hailstones, fire, and brimstone on him, as well as his troops and the many peoples who are with him.
However, fire is indeed mentioned in both accounts and everything mentioned is related, being precipitation. Revelation 20 is just a very abbreviated (two verse) account of the war. As such, it is reasonable that it only mentions one thing (fire) and not all the other precipitation God sends to fight Gog/Magog.
How Satan Stirs Up War After The Milllennium: By the way, many are puzzled by this post-mil Satanic revolt and war. How could Satan be released and start trouble with humans by turning them against Israel when there will be so many Glorified Saints plus Holy Angels on this earth? To understand that, see my article on Satan in Prophecy.
Finding the Timing of Gog/Magog War #1
Ezekiel 39 gives several clues that leave little doubt as to its exact timing. If you have a good understanding of God's plan from Bible prophecy, just a few of them will be enough to know instantly the only place this war fits:
Ezekiel 39:7, 22, 28-29 (HCSB) — 7 So I will make My holy name known among My people Israel and will no longer allow it to be profaned. Then the nations will know that I am Yahweh, the Holy One in Israel. ... 22 From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the LORD their God. ... 28 They will know that I am the LORD their God when I regather them to their own land after having exiled them among the nations. I will leave none of them behind. 29 I will no longer hide My face from them, for I will pour out My Spirit on the house of Israel.
There is only one time in God's plan when you could say that God will no longer hide his face, will reveal himself to all the nations, reveal his name and no longer allow it to be profaned, and will regather all Israel to their land and pour out his spirit on them all (Joel 2:18-29). That time would be the Millennium, or the 1000 years of God's Kingdom of resurrected immortal glorified saints ruling on the earth (Rev 20:4).
For any of these things to be true "from that day forward" and for God to "no longer hide his face," this war would have to conclude right before the Millennium begins. That would mean this war happens on the Day of the LORD itself as this verse may be referring to:
Ezekiel 39:8 (HCSB) — Yes, it is coming, and it will happen. This is the declaration of the Lord GOD. This is the day I have spoken about.
Admittedly, that verse could be clearer about which day God is speaking about. To clinch this timing, let's review key points Ezekiel 39 says about the end of its war which mirror a parallel war prophecy whose timing everyone knows:
Ezekiel 39:3-4, 17-20 (HCSB) — 3 Then I will knock your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. 4 You, all your troops, and the peoples who are with you will fall on the mountains of Israel. I will give you as food to every kind of predatory bird and to the wild animals. 17 “Son of man, this is what the Lord GOD says: Tell every kind of bird and all the wild animals: Assemble and come! Gather from all around to My sacrificial feast that I am slaughtering for you, a great feast on the mountains of Israel; you will eat flesh and drink blood. 18 You will eat the flesh of mighty men and drink the blood of the earth’s princes: rams, lambs, male goats, and all the fattened bulls of Bashan. 19 You will eat fat until you are satisfied and drink blood until you are drunk, at My sacrificial feast that I have prepared for you. 20 At My table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, of mighty men and all the warriors.” This is the declaration of the Lord GOD.
The parallel prophecy for Ezekiel 39, like Ezekiel 38, is in Revelation. You may be shocked as to which war Ezekiel 39 is parallel to:
Revelation 19:17-21 (HCSB) — 17 ...an angel ... cried out in a loud voice, saying to all the birds flying high overhead, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of commanders, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of their riders, and the flesh of everyone, both free and slave, small and great.” 19 Then I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and against His army. 20 But the beast was taken prisoner, and along with him the false prophet, who had performed the signs in his presence. He deceived those who accepted the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image with these signs. Both of them were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. 21 The rest were killed with the sword that came from the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.
Yes, this is the famous "Battle of Armageddon" of Revelation 19. It happens when Jesus returns with his glorified raptured saints from heaven (as pictured earlier in Rev 15) to destroy the Beast and his armies.
Just like Ezekiel 39, it goes into great detail about how God has prepared a feast of kings and their armies for birds and beasts to dine on.
And just like Ezekiel 39 alludes to, this prophecy is immediately followed in order by the Millennium when God rules on earth and reveals himself to all (Rev 20:4).
Common Objections
Of course, one could raise several objections to these prophecies being parallel. People viewing this prophecy too narrowly would say that Ezekiel 39 does not fit Armageddon because Armageddon involves all nations (Zech 14:2, 16), not just Magog. However, Ezekiel 39:4 mentions "many peoples" with Magog and even the "judgment hand" of God on "all the nations" as part of this prophecy (Eze 39:21, 6). Thus, it's not just a Magog vs Israel war as the first few verses of Ezekiel 39 might lead you to believe. Magog as the only nation specifically named in Ezekiel 39 could be because it is the leading nation. If it is many nations as it says, it still can fit Armageddon since Armageddon is "all" nations which unavoidably would include Magog.
Others would complain that Magog comes from the north while Armageddon involves nations coming from everywhere. But, again, with careful reading you will note that it does not say all the nations with Magog come from the north, only that Magog is from there.
Another objection centers on Gog. How can these be two wars 1000 years apart when the same guy is leading them? That's not a problem. We constantly find in the Bible different people with the same name.
Take Avimelech, for example. There are five in the Bible (Gen 20; 26; Ps 34; Jdg 9:22; 1Ch 18:16). Two of them seem related as Abraham (Gen 20:1-18) and Isaac (Gen 26:1-22) both dealt with a Philistine king of Gerar having this name. Probably this was a popular name for Philistine kings much like Pharaoh was for the Egyptian ruler. Similarly, the Gog of Ezekiel 38 and 39 can be different men sharing the same name or title (as some Bible commentaries teach).
But Who is Gog?
You may have noticed that throughout this article I never once attempted to identify Gog or Magog. By skipping the customary search for their identity and instead carefully comparing these two chapters to other parallel prophecies, the timing of the prophecy's two (not one) wars is easily and confidently identified.
Yet by now, like me, you perhaps are no longer concerned about who Gog and Magog are, anyway. If you agree that Ezekiel 38-39 speak of two wars and you see that the first is Armageddon that involves "all nations" (Zech 14:2, 16) already, then Gog is just one of many nations in that massive battle. The battle is the important thing and the result, not the leader. If you get that the second war is the post-mil revolt and that it is so far in the future after an unprecedented time of peace and prosperity, then you know it really has no bearing on the geopolitical scene we understand today. So what concern is it who is the leader Satan stirs up to make trouble then?
Only prognosticators using current events to interpret prophecy need to be troubled with Gog or Magog's identity (and we know how unreliable those interpretations have been). Perhaps the very naming of Gog and Magog in these prophecies at all (so that people would want to identify them) indeed was the curve ball God used to confuse these prophecies for so long.
One thing is for sure, the second Gog of Ezekiel 39/Armageddon, is not the Antichrist himself. The Antichrist is thrown in the lake of fire (Rev 19:20) but the second Gog is buried (Eze 39:11). Perhaps if this rules out Gog being the Antichrist, he is the top military general of the Antichrist...one of the Ten Rulers?
Note: If you thought the Gog Magog War(s) relate to the coming M.E. war, consider Psalm 83 instead.
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I am a Born Again Christian. There is something i need to understand better, Tim. Revelation 20 “7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves.”
1. Is Gog and Magog a reference to all the Nations that will match against God’s people?
2. What will Israel have done to want to finish her up?
3. All the Born Again and confess “Jesus is Lord and Saviour” are God’s People. A reference to God’s People means all the cnverted scattered all over the face of the Earth. All God’s People won’t at a given time be found in the beloved city. At whatever time all these things happen, we will still be scattered all over the Earth. Explain the above scripture in light of this. Thank you
Is Gog of (Ezekiel 38/39) the same as the White Horseman or 1st seal of Revelation?
I believe this is a theory that has never been indicated anywhere I can find. If Gog is the 1st seal, this changes this conversation completely.
I believe that Gog (Turkey – Erdogan) is the breaking of the 1st Seal/White Horseman in Revelation. Both Gog and the White Horseman have a number of things in common. They both have a bow and a crown, and they go out and conquer. Since Gog, (I believe is Erdogan or Prime Minister of Turkey), he also has a crown. But, in Gog, Ezekiel 39, his arrows are on the ground because God has knocked them out of his hand. This is because he destroys Gog in Israel, buries Gog in northern Israel at Hamon-gog, and breaks the 6th seal when he attacks Israel and tries to capture the Temple Mount. This allows the Dragon (Allah – Satan) to be thrown out of Heaven, in a simultaneous war in Heaven, with his angels through the war with Michael. Then Satan or the Dragon resurrects Gog as Allah or antichrist on earth and gives him his authority his seat and to rule for 42 months.
If Gog (Turkey) is the 1st seal of Revelation, then he will die, trying to take the Temple Mount, and this will break the 6th seal. The elect being sealed during the half hour, and the start of the Tribulation and the 7 Trumpets or 42 months prior to desolation.
If this is the case, we will see this in the next year or so. Since we are at the 70-year generation of Israel come to an end. The Parable of the Fig Tree will be fulfilled.
Also, I believe the 4th horseman is the end of this cycle prior to the antichrist and the trumpets. Gog dies and death (pale horseman) is followed by Hades and Hell. Satan being thrown out of Heaven by Michael allows the dragon to resurrect Gog or the resurrected Allah or Antichrist.
I believe Turkey is Gog and that if he is the 1st seal. Turkey will go through Syria and collect the 10 horns or nations that attack Israel within the next year or so.
Jim, there is no “70-year generation” in the Bible; only a 40-year generation, seen repeatedly. As far as the seals, they have began soon after Jesus came. We’re waiting for the 6th seal, which is Wormwood.
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Actually Psalms 90:10 does give the generation as 70 with a strong generation as 80.
KJV
The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
New International Version
Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away.
Israel was born on May 14, 1948. So all events must occur within this generation, or by May 14, 2028.
If Erdogan broke the 1st Seal on Jan, 21, 2018 when he went into Syria. Then he is on a time schedule to break the 6th seal when he reaches the temple mount.
Keep an eye on Erdogan and Turkey in the next few years. Erdogan is Gog of Ezekiel 38/39. But, he is also the 1st seal or white horseman of Revelation. And he will change the world soon. Based on Prophesy he will attack and destroy Israel and combine the 10 nations that go against Israel in the next couple of years. Rebuilding the new Ottoman Empire.
Reply Jim, Ps 90:10 is a useless definition of anything given Moses couldn’t decide between 70 or 80 in it! I don’t find any of the main literal scriptural requirements fitting Erdogen as Antichrist.
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Hi Tim,
Yes one must agree, definitively two events. One as described in Ezekiel and the other as described in Revelation. Both very clear on when every event will start and who will motivate it. The second event start as soon as the devil will be freed after the Millennium and he start misleading the nations again (Rev.20:7-10).
The first event is motivated by the God of Israel (Ezekiel 38:3,4 and 39:1,2) and start as soon as Israel dwell safely and stay without walls (Ezekiel 38:14,15). Gog will come onto the 12 tribes of Israel when he see they dwell safely.
The nations who live in the four quarters of the earth will be gathered to battle by Satan, against the camp of the saints a thousand years later.
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Tim, That makes sense that there are 2 attacks. One just prior to and shortly after the millennium . Couldn’t Satan be Gog? I know he’s not flesh and blood but I was thinking that would seem to explain how he reappears at the end of the millennium and then being able to influence so many people all over the earth to rebel.
Reply Mark, if Satan is not the Antichrist 1000 years before Gog #2 (which we know hes not because the Antichrist is “a man” that rises “from the Abyss” with the “power of Satan” but is not said to be Satan), then I don’t know why Satan would be Gog later. It says he stirs up Gog Magog, not becomes Gog.=)
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Tim, this is Michael Harman I really appreciate all the hard work you are doing deciphering the scriptures, I’m sure when Jesus returns he will personally thank you for all this work helping Christians understand the end time scriptures. I for one thoroughly enjoy reading these articles. Keep up the good work you are doing.
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Hi Tim,
How do you understand Ezekiel 38:18-20, especially verse 19 that references a great earthquake?
“And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,” says the Lord God, “that My fury will show in My face. 19 For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: ‘Surely in that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel, 20 so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence. The mountains shall be thrown down, the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.”
Could this be the same great earthquake that John saw in Revelation 6:12 and 11:19? If so, that’s problematic for the view that Ezek 38 deals with War #2.
Reply TR, Rev 6:12 is a pretrib event caused by Wormwood, Rev 11:19 is the 7th trumpet disruption from God marking the end of the Great Tribulation and the start of his wrath. God’s wrath concludes on Yom Kippur with Armageddon. The Ezekiel 38:20 earthquake is another earthquake entirely that is part of several aspects of God’s wrath described in surrounding verses (Eze 38:19-23) when taken as a whole what Revelation 20 says in a more abbreviated way about God’s fire (wrath) falling on Gog. This is typical in harmonizing passages that one is going to have more detail than the others, but we do have a match on fire falling down supernaturally by God. There is no conflict; Ezekiel 38 matches Rev 20.
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Great Work Dear Tim,
i have been going back on forth with this one for a long time and what didn’t make matter’s an easier was Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17 fitting in with Ezekiel 38&39…
This however makes sense of the timing of all these wars yet to come.
As So many have been saying that Isaiah 17 and Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38&39 were all happening in close succession which didn’t make sense.
As it takes time to get a Country rebuilt and living without fear and for the Arabs to stop sending missiles as they can’t keep any agreement longer than 9 months…
I have sent this to my Bible Study Teacher and some of the ladies who attend the group…Looking forward to hearing their comments on this…!
Bless You.
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Great article! After reading quite a few Gog/Magog articles, I was beginning to think I was alone in my view on Ezekiel 38 & 39. I came to the exact same conclusion as you did. It still bothers me a little that it’s not chronological, but everything else seems to fit perfectly.
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Hi,
Thank you for the rendition of Gog and Magog.
By the way, there is no war mentioned in Psalm 83. The Psalm only mentions tumult and a confederacy. What is your opinion on this?
Nice catch Tim. I came here as a result of my being stopped dead in my tracks studying Revelation when I came to chapter 20 verse 8. …”and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth–Gog and Magog–and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.” Verse 7 saying, “When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison,” Since I knew Satan was released from his prison at the end of the 1000 years, I was stunned to see in the following verse 8 the words Gog and Magog, since I had always associated that war with a single war in Ezekiel 38 and 39.
Reply Thanks, Steven. It’s a fun one but just one of many catches in my book Know the Future http://escapeallthesethings.com/planet-x-nibiru-wormwood.htm#order
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Dear Tim, thank you for your explanation. For many years now I believed the same like you, that these will be the wars of Harmaggedon and the last war at the end of the Millenium. I read some years ago a book about the Alpha Course and the authors spoke also about Freemasonry in the church and had some pictures in their book. One shows the freemasonry tempel in the City of London and in the front are standing two statues like watchmen. Do you know the names that are written on these statues? Gog and Magog!
Reply Youre’ welcome. Yes, I’ve heard of those statues. Of course, they came after the Bible was written =)
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Thanks for clearing that up for me! I feel much better now. Keep up your good works!
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just finished your article on Gog and Magog, definitely clearedup some confusion. l agree these are two different wars. I discovered this website yesterday while looking up Gog and Magog in Eze 38&39. Looking forward to more articles. God bless brother
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Greetings, in Jesus’Name!
Your work is highly appreciated. What a revelation!
I also am a disciple of Jesus. I am really touched. And this assures us that our Lord won’t leave leave us wanting, especially at this hour!
Thank you. What touched you about this article since it’s on the dreadful God Magog wars?
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