Is America, the most dominant and influential nation of the end times, really not found in Bible prophecy as most Christians are told? If that doesn’t sound right to you, then you are not alone. There is no better, plain and literal fulfillment of Jeremiah's and Revelation's Daughter / Mystery Babylon than America whether you compare it to Saudi Arabia, Mecca, the Vatican, Rome, Iraq or anywhere else. Except...how can God judge a nation who does so much good and not judge so many arguably worse nations like China or Iran? How can Babylon be a nation when it says it’s a “city?” Where is the blood of slain prophets “found in her?” These common objections and more are answered...plus why you never need to fear being trapped or unaware in America when she is about to be burned.
Babylon = Babylon. “Mystery” Babylon = ?
If you ask most Christians where America is in end times Bible prophecy, they will either say that they have no idea or that they were taught that America is not there. When you think about it, this is a reasonable position since the Bible seemingly can only talk about cities and nations in the Middle East such as Damascus, Nineveh, Egypt and Babylon. How could the prophets possibly be talking about some Western nation when they constantly use names of places we already know of in the Middle East?
For example, Babylon is Babylon, still in Iraq to this day. However, what if such a familiar place were embellished in a prophecy with a modifier to subtly clue you in that it was not really literally that place? Further, what if the prophecy went on to describe distinct characteristics of this place that did not match the Biblical location under the same base name? Of course, what I have in mind when I say all this is this prophecy:
Revelation 17:5 (KJV) — And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 17:5 (HCSB) — On her forehead a cryptic name was written: BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE VILE THINGS OF THE EARTH.
Babylon is Babylon, but what about “mystery Babylon” (KJV)? Or as modern versions render it, “a cryptic name...Babylon the Great?” Mystery/cryptic Babylon must refer to something else or there is no mystery. Further, how can you reasonably describe Babylon, Iraq today as “great,” especially after Iraq has been defeated twice in recent decades by the American-led coalition and occupied by the same?
60 Characteristics of Mystery Babylon
That Mystery Babylon does not refer to Iraq is borne out very well when you look at all the details found in Revelation 17-18 and the parallel prophecies such as Jeremiah 50-51. There are dozens and dozens of details about Mystery Babylon found in those chapters.
Thankfully, a researcher by the name of Rick Coombes has put together a book of his research on these prophecies, called America the Babylon. If you want a brief summary of the points in his book, see his "60 reasons" article. You can also watch a video presentation of America the Babylon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoiHuNaEIjs
Just a little of the evidence he presents is enough to rule out all of the commonly believed interpretations of Mystery Babylon like Iraq, Rome, Mecca, Saudi Arabia, the Vatican, or even Jerusalem.
Proof #1: Deep Sea Water Port
For example, the prophecies indicate that Mystery Babylon is a major port city with a deep sea water port:
Revelation 18:17-19 (HCSB) — 17 for in a single hour such fabulous wealth was destroyed! And every shipmaster, seafarer, the sailors, and all who do business by sea, stood far off 18 as they watched the smoke from her burning and kept crying out: “Who is like the great city?” 19 They threw dust on their heads and kept crying out, weeping, and mourning: Woe, woe, the great city, where all those who have ships on the sea became rich from her wealth, for in a single hour she was destroyed.
Coombe's book explains this passage:
This passage tells us that merchant ships are standing off the shoreline of Babylon. These ships have either just unloaded in the port city of Mystery Babylon, or are waiting to dock when the fiery judgment hits. These ship captains, crew and passengers are witnesses to the destruction. Question? Why would these folks be standing on deck of merchant ships unless there were Port facilities in this city? Answer. The city is a port city. In this day and age, especially by virtue of the list of commodities that are traded in "mystery Babylon"… see Revelation 18:11-13… one thing can be noted… this city, to have this kind of merchandise coming in by ships…must be a DEEP WATER SEAPORT CITY. Why? For ships of today to bring such merchandise requires the ships to be large commercial freighters. These ships require deep-water port facilities to dock and unload/load. They must have a harbor with large depths. Now here is the problem for the "Rome = Babylon" theorists. Rome is NOT a deep water seaport, period!!! Ancient Rome, we are told must be the only literal interpretation. However, Ancient Rome was not a Seaport either. Rome is landlocked.
Although Rome is indicated by Coombes, his argument would also apply to the Vatican (inside Rome), Jerusalem, and Babylon, Iraq. All are without sea ports and do not fit the description of Mystery Babylon the Great as a great commercial center accessible from the sea by ships.
Proof #2: Top Financial/Military Power
Other famous candidate cities that may be port cities like Dubai are still ruled out by the details of Mystery Babylon's great military and financial power over all the kings of the earth (Rev 17:18, 9; Rev 18:18). Bear in mind that whoever Babylon is, its sudden disappearance is devastating to the world economy to the point that no one buys the merchants' goods anymore (Rev 18:11).
America is the chief economic power of the world. The greatest importer and (infamously) consumer of goods and resources in the world per capita. It has the reserve currency of the world. More on that below in Objection #1.
Proof #3: Babylon Must Have A Recognizable Mother Country
Perhaps the strongest proof of all is how Jeremiah calls Babylon "Daughter Babylon" with mention of her "mother."
Jeremiah 50:12 (HCSB) — your mother will be utterly humiliated; she who bore you will be put to shame. Look! She will lag behind all the nations— a dry land, a wilderness, an Arabah.
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Of course, unlike all the other countries named above, America has a clearly recognizable mother country. (Which is the answer to the question I had as a little boy when I was told we spoke English: "Why do we speak this 'English' and not 'American?'" =) ).
Yes, Great Britain is the "Mother Babylon" of Jeremiah 50:12 which "Daughter Babylon" came from. Great Britain will watch as her closest and most powerful ally is destroyed in a single day, a single hour. (Putin boasted once that he could destroy America in half that time.)
Proof #4: National Symbols of US and UK in Daniel 7
Both countries are also pictured in Daniel 7 before and after America's destruction:
Daniel 7:4 (HCSB) — The first [beast] was like a lion but had eagle’s wings. I continued watching until its wings were torn off. It was lifted up from the ground, set on its feet like a man, and given a human mind.
Winged Lion of Babylon
America's symbol is the eagle. Great Britain's national symbol is the lion. A lion whose eagle's wings are plucked literally pictures the destruction of America since eagle's wings cannot survive without the body, but the lion body can and does survive. In fact, the same beast reappears later in Revelation with the lion still there and the other three beasts of Daniel 7, but no more trace of the eagle. It's dead and gone; destroyed. After that the UK is transformed, "elevated" and given a new "mind." This pictures how the Antichrist takes over the UK first and then the rest of the world, after destroying America with the help of the Ten Rulers (Rev 17:12, 16-17).
Common Objections
The information about Mystery Babylon is exhaustive. However, because the prophecy is so long and complicated, it is easy to find a verse that does not make sense or seem to fit America at first glance. Here are the most common objections that people seem to raise against this explanation of Babylon the Great:
Objection #1 — “Babylon Is a Religious/Political/Economic System”
Some think that Babylon is a “religious or political or economic system” that we need to “come out of,” such as the Vatican, the headquarters of the Catholic Church could be seen as. The following verse about what happens after Babylon falls could be used to argue that it is more than just a city or nation but must be a global system:
Revelation 18:11 (HCSB) — The merchants of the earth will also weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their merchandise any longer
Why would no one buy the merchants' goods anymore if it is just America that goes away and not a “global system?” It's not hard to explain this. When America is gone, the US dollar will no longer have backing, becoming worthless paper. Keep in mind that the US dollar is a main reserve currency of the world. If all these dollars most nations are holding suddenly lost their value overnight, it would turn the financial order upside down, causing a panic and a sure global economic collapse.
Under those conditions, naturally no one will be buying the luxury goods that the merchants are getting rich on. They will be ruined (along with everyone else fighting to survive the ensuing chaos). The global financial collapse will make the Great Recession and Great Depression look like the good old days.
Turning Mystery Babylon into a global system of whatever kind is simply unnecessary to make sense of the prophecy literally. It also creates many more problems than it solves. It requires you to ignore dozens of plain passages that specify a nation from which people will physically have to move out of before literal fire falls there. Notice how many times it says this:
Revelation 18:4 (HCSB) — Then I heard another voice from heaven: Come out of her, My people, so that you will not share in her sins or receive any of her plagues.
Jer 50:5 — They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to God in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.
Jer 50:28 — The voice of them that flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of God our God, the vengeance of his temple.
Jer 51:6 — Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul: be not cut off in her iniquity; for this is the time of God's vengeance; he will render unto her a recompence.
Jer 51:49-50 — 49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth. 50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember God afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.
Renouncing a "global system" does not protect you when fire is falling on your head. Just ask the people who lived in Sodom and Gomorrah—which Babylon's destruction is compared to (Jer 50:40). Lot had to physically leave Sodom to be safe from that fiery judgment. If Lot had stayed in Sodom to witness to the Sodomites, he would have been a crisp for disobeying instructions, no matter how righteous he was. The righteous will also be physically fleeing Babylon in the future, just as Lot physically fled Sodom.
By the way, don't overlook that all the saints of all other nations will be leaving home at the same time that American saints flee the USA. For one things, Wormwood comes right on the heels of WWIII so, wherever you are as a saint, you need to be where God is going to protect you from it. A second reason for this (as if you needed one) is that when the global economy crashes from the vaporization of the nation printing and backing the US dollar, you don't want to be anywhere but where God has said he will provide for and feed the saints.
Objection #2 — “Babylon Is A City, Not A Nation”
By far the most common objection I hear about America being Babylon comes from a fixation on how it is described as a city by Revelation no less than seven times. For example, this verse calls it a city twice:
Revelation 18:10 (HCSB) — They will stand far off in fear of her torment, saying: Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the mighty city! For in a single hour your judgment has come.
How do we answer this? Well, first read another one of the “city” verses and notice what the city has:
Revelation 17:18 (HCSB) — And the woman you saw is the great city that has an empire over the kings of the earth.”
Could a mere city rule the world today without a large, powerful country behind it? Of course, not. As it turns out, other details point to Babylon as a chief city of a “nation” (Jer 50:12) with farmland (Jer 50:16), and other cities (Jer 50:32; 51:43).
Then why does Revelation call it a city? It seems to be using a common convention in both ancient and modern times to refer to a nation by its chief city. The media today often uses Moscow or Washington to refer to Russia or the USA, respectively.
Shouldn't the prophecy refer to Washington, then? Washington may be America's capital, but New York City is America's biggest and most important city for commerce, finance, advertising, etc. It is not so strange that a prophecy about America identifies her by commonly known characteristics of her greatest and most famous city.
Objection #3 — “America Does Too Much Good / Other Nations Are Far Worse”
America is a Christian nation full of churches and Bibles. It sends out more Bibles and missionaries into the world than any other nation. It shares its wealth in the form of aid to the world. It hosts the United Nations. With all these good works, how could it be that God is going to judge her so harshly?
Further, how can this happen when there are so many other nations that by comparison are so much more deserving of God's wrath? Look at the dictatorships in the Middle East that have gassed and slaughtered their own people. Or how China represses her citizens and encourages the genocide of many girls under the one-child policy. Certainly if God is going to judge America for her sins, he would have to judge these nations first, no?
But that is human reasoning and judgment. God uses different criteria than we do. There is a key principle that guides God's judgment which must be considered if we are to understand how America could be judged before all these other nations. Jesus expressed it well:
Luke 12:47-48 — 47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
You could call this the principle of accountability. God judges people and nations individually based on their unique situation. He holds them accountable for their actions based on what they have been given in wisdom and wealth. This is the only fair way. If a nation collectively “knows better” through their rich Christian, Bible-literate heritage but does not act accordingly, then a severer judgment is reserved for them than a contemporary nation that does wickedness but has not been given the same advantages.
In other words, the fact that America has this Christian heritage (leading to most homes having a Bible) is a liability if America as a whole does not adhere to the values taught by the legions of Bible teachers found in the land. Russia, China and every other communist or Islamic nation keep out the Bible and persecute all Christians that try to proselytize. Israel was similarly held accountable for having the oracles of God delivered to her by “angels” and prophets. This is the reason ancient Israel was judged and virtually eradicated from remembrance as a nation until 1948.
Revelation 18 talks about Babylon heavily influencing the rest of the world to sin and live for luxury (Rev 18:3, 9). She deceives them into doing this with her “sorcery” (Rev 18:23). It is hard to appreciate how global America's wicked influence is until you live overseas as I have. Everywhere you go, American culture is desired and imported. The violent, sexual and immoral themes of American TV, movies, music, pornography reached nearly everywhere, even before the Internet America invented, which has now only made it worse. America is imitated like no other nation and this brings wrath on America (Rev 18:3, Lk 17:1).
When you consider how much this ugly scenario is the opposite of how a Christian nation should be influencing the world, then you can understand why God says he will judge America for her wickedness and depravity.
Objection #4 — Missing Merchandise: Slaves, Chariots, Ivory, etc.
Another type of objection comes from the list of goods that end time Babylon trades:
Rev 18:11 — And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: 12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thy wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
For the ancient world, this list represents “every luxury the heart could desire” as the New American Commentary characterizes it. But when some look at this list of ancient luxuries they have trouble matching it up with modern American goods. You would be hard pressed to find a trade in “chariots” today anywhere, but you will find their modern equivalent of automobiles, airplanes, trains and even bicycles traded heavily in America. It seems reasonable to concede that the ancient prophets would have no concepts or words for such modern inventions and would be given the word chariots and horses to cover modern transportation goods.
Often it is pointed to that certain products have nothing to do with America or are not made there. For example, America is not known for precious woods as, say, Africa is. Many other goods on the list are not common today either. The point to remember here is that it does not say that the goods are made in Babylon, but rather that they are imported or traded by her. America is well known as the greatest importer and consumer of fine goods in the world. Through the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX), Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME), and other commodities, futures and stock exchanges, America is a leader in the trade and marketing of such goods. America does not have to produce the goods listed to fulfill the prophecy, she only has to trade them.
But some will say that not all the goods listed there are traded. Although there were slaves in the past, that was abolished 150 years ago, so it does not describe end time America. Ivory trade is also banned by the US since 1990, so how could that fit America when she falls as Babylon? It can fit—if we leave behind our law-abiding mindset for a minute and consider the real world. America, like all nations, has modern day slavery. There is human trafficking for sexual exploitation and forced labor, despite the laws against it. If you follow the news regularly, you will occasionally read the tales of survivors or those who owned slaves. Similarly, ivory trade may be illegal, but there is the black market for this, in the US, too.
Objection #5 — "How Does America 'Sit On Seven Mountains?'"
This verse about Babylon causes many to stumble in regards to America:
Revelation 17:9 (KJV) — And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
From this verse almost alone, people claim that Babylon is Rome because Rome is the "city on seven hills." The problem with that is the Greek word for hill (buonos) is not used here, but the word commonly translated mountain (oros) is.
The seven heads of the beast represent seven mountains and also seven kings (Rev. 17:9-10). The woman is Babylon (Rev. 17:5) The woman (Babylon) sits on the seven mountains or literally reigns over them. What are these mountains?
In a macro sense, continents are mountains. The earth is full of mountains and canyons under the sea and only the large masses that push out of the water are continents. Importantly, there are seven continents to the earth (North and South America, Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, and Antarctica). This mirrors how the woman sits on many waters/nations (Rev 17:1,15) and "reigns over the kings of the earth" (Rev 17:18) as the seven continents encompass the entire earth.
America's dominant military and financial power gives her a global hegemony or rule through influence and threat of force. The nations that dare defy or threaten America get unilaterally invaded or have their funding or resources cut off. The power exerted by the dollar is immeasurable. If you doubt America's control of the world that Babylon is said to have, again, it's important to think outside the box of the official stories and legal channels and consider what happens that the politicians cover-up. A good book to start with in this regard is Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
Objection #6 — “Slaughtered Prophets and Saints” in America?
The Bible's very last verses on the complete destruction of Babylon are quite profound and perplexing. They speak of what will not be found there again (namely any sign of life or human activity) and what will be found instead:
Revelation 18:23-24 (HCSB) — 23 the light of a lamp will never shine in you again; and the voice of a groom and bride will never be heard in you again. ⌊All this will happen⌋ because your merchants were the nobility of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery, 24 and the blood of prophets and saints, and of all those slaughtered on earth, was found in you.
Given America's history and reputation as the place of religious freedom and a destination for those (like the Puritans) fleeing religious persecution, this verse seems like an epic fail for America as Babylon. Certainly, this objection is the most difficult to explain and understand. But it can be answered with an overlooked and obscure statement from Jesus.
When speaking to the Pharisees, Jesus set a strange precedent that makes this blood guilt for America possible in God's eyes:
Matthew 23:34-35 (HCSB) — 34 This is why I am sending you prophets, sages, and scribes. Some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will flog in your synagogues and hound from town to town. 35 So all the righteous blood shed on the earth will be charged to you, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar.
In other words, in the reckoning of God, all that is needed is for one prophet or apostle to be killed in America for the blood of all the prophets and saints to be blamed on or found in America. Who can say that has not happened in America's history already or will not happen in the future to one of the prophets God must be sending to warn the people to leave the nation (Rev 18:4)?
Conclusion – Don't Leave Yet and Don't Worry
Despite objections based on misunderstandings of certain passages, the overwhelming evidence best fits America as the dominant end time nation of Mystery Babylon the Great. As such, the sad truth is that America will one day be destroyed through fire, probably at the hands of enemy nations in the same way that God judged and exiled Israel and Judah. This is an upsetting and even depressing realization for most of us, but it is fair according to how God judges those who have been “given much.”
The only good news about this prophecy is that we are assured that God plans to call out the righteous before the destruction happens. However, I cannot stress enough that nobody needs to leave the USA early, now that they know about America's destruction in prophecy and the command in the prophecy to “come out of her.” To do so now would probably be a mistake for most people given how much harder it is for Americans to make a living and get by outside their home country.
We must realize that the prophecy of a command to flee is not the same as a command to flee for all Bible readers in America. The prophecy does not include how to know when to flee or where to flee to exactly. However, when the "come out of her" prophecy is being fulfilled, someone will come to convey what that “voice from heaven” in the prophecy says before the destruction happens so people can hear and obey. We have such end time prophets and messengers of God predicted in several passages (Rev 7:1-8=Rev 14:1-7; Mal 4:5-6). These messengers, like Elijah, must tell us all the missing details at that time, including how to get the help most of us will need in order to accomplish such a disruptive and costly undertaking.
As I always say, if God could get millions of slaves out of Egypt in the exodus (and have them paid back wages in the process), then God's poor, faithful servants today have nothing to worry about. Just be ready to listen and obey (in faith) when the time comes and you will get the help you need. And if you doubt your faith (or even if you don't!), follow Jesus' command to be on your guard against lack of watchfulness (read: apathy) and pray daily for the strength to escape all these things "(Lk 21:36).
(For more on God's plan to save all his servants from America's destruction and the other events leading up to and including the Great Tribulation, see this article or my book.)
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In 539 BC, the Medo-Persian Empire, led by Cyrus the Great, conquered Babylon, fulfilling Isaiah’s prophecy. The city was overthrown, and its empire came to an end. The prophecy accurately predicted the destruction of Babylon, which became a “desolate waste” (Ezra 2:1).
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Another thing I forgot to mention is this: do not say “the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord.” Before God’s people were judged they thought no one could
touch them because of the temple, does God need America to spread His gospel? I spoke with a politician, which was brought inti a church I used to attend: God would not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of ten righteous men, oh yeah? Read in the prophets where God says even if Moses, Daniel, Noah would please their case they would only save themselves.
Spot on and it is what I can read from the scriptures, now this was written years ago. The dollar is going to collapse soon because of all the printing they have done, is simple economics, and you are seeing and feeling the effects of it when you go buy anything. A loaf of bread will cost $150 USD, that is hyperinflation.
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[…] and then Iraq, but when God makes them enter a rematch he will make Iran win. As what somebody else said, why would America be harshly punished and not its enemies is because the former (as a Christian […]
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“Where is the blood of slain prophets ‘found in her?’”
Um…I know of one. But, I’m a Mormon so I’m biased. But, that same prophet was also ‘hounded from town to town” as were all of his followers. Eventually, they were forced to leave the US altogether.
Side note: because they were forced to leave the US they were not a part of the Civil War. Kind of a blessing, that.
As for where to flee, I’d say to keep the New Jerusalem that is prophesied to be built in Jackson County, Missouri in mind. Prior to that, there will be other places of safety in the US and at least one in Cardston, Canada. Look up the Cardston Temple vision for details. Look up John Taylor’s vision, too, though this one is graphic and scary.
Reply […] we’d see them for what they really are. As what this website says, if America does so many sinful things despite being a Christian nation it will be judged more […]
Reply […] a growing body of evidence that America is Mystery Babylon, the prophesised nation-state that corrupts the entire world. Comes to think of it this way, if […]
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I came to this article because God has been showing me a lot of things. I didn’t ask him to, he initiated it on his own. One thing he has been showing me repeatedly through two situations going on in my life is about adultery, both physical and spiritual. As I have been suffering the physical adultery of my husband, he is showing me the spiritual adultery of my father. My father is big into bible prophecy and the radical republican politics. I suffered horrible abuse as a child and when I saw it spreading to the next generation in my family I knew something was wrong with the Christianity I knew. I believe much of what America will be judged for is spiritual adultery and abuse within the church. America has produced a LOT of very rich, powerful pastors and christian ministries that dominate the christian world and ignore justice and abuse in the church. Yes, there are many martyrs in America. I almost was one. It just isn’t public. It’s silenced. By the church and right wing so called Christian politics. It nearly killed several people in my family. American Christians are so deceived. I have seen the ugliest sides of humanity in the “world”. And the evil in the church is the exact same thing. I have had two real life situations going in parallel, one involving sin of the most disgusting kind in the “world”, one in my “good christian family”, and it’s the exact same face of Satan in both. God showed me the verses commanding his people to come out of the whore, and he meant for me to stop adulterating with all these false doctrines that we have tolerated, created by powerful men for gain. There are two main spiritual whores I had been adulterating with. One was the evangelical doctrines that oppress women and produce cruel powerful men who are never wrong. The other was the doctrines of demonic origin in the charismatic/pentecostal side of the church. Long cherished doctrines for me. But as I saw with my husband’s ongoing unrepentant adultery, you have to leave the whore completely. My husband can’t come home and keep a single tie to the other woman. God’s analogy is spot on. I had to go back to only looking at Jesus as revealed in the Bible and give up all my precious bible teachers and study tools and just rely on the holy Spirit and the writing of the apostles. The Bible makes so much more sense without all the complex charts of dispensationalism, etc. Anyway, I mostly wanted to say cool article, matches what God is showing me as I listen to him with dropped jaw because he shattered my old beliefs. In a good way!
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I came here because someone posted Rev 18:23 and replaced the word “sorceries” with the Greek word Pharmakeia….”for by Pharmakeia all nations were deceived.” I was asking my husband abt the verse as it relates to prophecy and how a pharmaceutical is being used world wide right now…. I was reading the entire chapter for context….he stops me and says shockingly America is Babylon. He was taught that the US isn’t mentioned in Prophecy.
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Genesis 35:11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation (USA) and a company of nations (British Empire) shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins
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This has always bothered me. I wonder if it is talking about all medications, or just the “bad” ones.
Reply Revelation 16:19 Now the great city was divided into three parts,
(3 branches of government; executive, legislative, judicial),
and the cities of the nation fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.
Satan rules the air. Mystery Babylon is the secret societies the Catholic church and the internet. They use the internet to traffic their children, blood, drugs etc. America cannot be Babylon because we are no mystery. We make ourselves known. When we find out how evil they are we will no longer buy the goods of Babylon. Some of you forget we don’t fight against flesh and blood but against…..well you know
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Kill, the mystery refers to the identity of Babylon the Great, not whether Babylon itself is “mysterious.” You cannot burn a society nor move from it, so “societies” do not fit Babylon the Great. America you can burn and flee.
Reply Right on Brother. Trying to wake people up is difficult, especially in your own family.
Ezekiel’s (38:11) war in the land of unwalled villages where the people at at peace and clueless as to what is going to suddenly hit them.
Most think it’s the nation of Israel, even though there are so many walls and fences up, you need not pen your dog. Like they’re at peace with the Palestinians and are going to tear down the walls of Jerusalem and the Wailing wall along with the other walled villages in their litter box.
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If you want the truth.. google “Chicago Worlds Fair 1893” and click on images…….and tell us again where Babylon is.
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Yeah the Tares are separated first as the parable about the sower and the seed said. I believe we are not being separated as with the masks. 99% of the people I see now even Trump supporters wont argue much against wearing one. Seen a guy today with a Trump mask and hat, I tried to tell him something the CDC said themsleves and not just someone off the cuff, but the CDC has a report that came out in Sept. that 14 days before the onset of covid19 they were wearing masks, and the numbers of them that still caught were over 70%. This tells me it’s not about anyone protecting anyone and yes I can provide the link if I need.
And after that it shows that those who never wore a mask only about 3.9% were still catching it. But it seems he didn’t want to take me serious, for he had some other hard to find fact about how sitting on ones butt for 8 hrs a day versus one didn’t have much oxygen taken from them… Went on about he works hard for 8 hours so work for a living then tell me or something not sure completly for he walked away quickly…
Sounds sort of like he agreed with me but…
Point is take off your mask it’s killing you.
But that’s my point we are being separated now. the Tares are to be burnt here soon! Yes I now made the destinction that it’s not confusion as babylon but America. For you can’t fall violently as Revelations does say with confusion so… yeah.
Most always say no because they still think that were actually free. We’re not nor have we ever been. The law of liberty is Gods measure of liberty and it’s found in scripture far more than what people think. We are a beast either as part of the 7 headed beast or the two horned one or some of both, but we are a beast. Abortion and it’s bad but abortion is not what makes us a beast it’s our hypocrissy and tyranny. Playing God is what we do and that’s what makes us a beast. I can get into the law and all but that would start an argument but that is part of why people never see it, they hide behind statements like we’re the light that iluminates the whole world of liberty etc… BULL!
Romans 13 never said to obey the secular Govt it said to obey the Higher liberty. The word power in Romans 13, as in obey the higher power was mistranslated from the Greek word Exousia and Exousia means Liberty not power. That’s just the tip of the deception ice berg that Satan has used to gain power over people. The Image that people all over the world are told to obey is as in Our man made liberty and is what has become the model for other countries to mimic or follow. Life to the image or as in our man made Constittuion/Idol is or can be Legislation and or Enforcement or in our times with the UN, or the Supreme court gives that false image it’s life. OR with the UN international law… We tell countries to act as we say or they get sanctioned. People never see this as evil for they will mostly defend it as necessary or something. We are the Antichrsite and no one man will ever come to power as one but all in one Antichrist is here now.
As with when Israel was allowed to return to their land after Daniels 70 years captivity,and I believe it’s in Nehamiah, or Ezra it says they all spoke as one man. Thats how we as mankind fuflill that not some superhuman to come to power and rule the world for we do now. The temple is rebuilt as in do you not know your body is the temple, so as believers, or so-called believers we have rebuilt that temple and when we see the abomination sitting in that temple which is made up of the so-called believers all together as one then run to the mountains. Not sure if it’s the false teachings as in what I said that has been taught already as Romans 13 haveing been taught we’re to obey secular Govt. But that goes a long way to explain the who and what that is. OR if it’s as in the transhumanism that is coming out now, and you see us gain a artificial immortality as with being merged with machines, or nanobots that I have read about that is or might be part of the Vaccine people are now wanting to be made so quickly which if a nanobot is in you with you being part of the temple and it can do things that only god can do or is supposed to do then that would or could be the abomination standing in ou the temple claiming to be god or again false teaching as I mentioned already.
But look it up. in strongs it does say as the first list of words for what Exousia can mean liberty is the top one not power. Or jsut type in not Google but some other search engine since google is the beasts platform type in what does exousia mean and you should come to a site that shows you that.
Others like to say what Jesus told the Pharissee as to mean we’re to create heaven for ourselves adn not that he’s truly coming back. Bunk he has to or we’re screwed. Tell me you truly want mankind as your ruler forever or as long as we last….???? Really you truly beleive God is working through man to create what is hell on earth now? And the immortality will be us uploaded to a computer or as in EVE online we have a everlasting supply of clones and when it dies we automaticaly upload into that new clone????
Very tempting I am sure who doesn’t want to cure cancer I do I have it, and I want immortality that is promised from God, but this is what you want to have forever??? Tyranny? Mankind will never be able to bring freedom as it’s meant to be we’re too weak. Peace and safety has brought tyranny not what it’s was supposed to bring. I’ve seen with people over reacting to things around them and bringing about more laws which has made people more pissed off than better. Some don’t smoke so they don’t care but making all these anti smoking laws has made peope less friendly than more friendly.
Not the only evidence I’ve seen but that is part of it. People I see on the news make claims that this happened so we need laws to keep a certain part of the populace more safe, but i have personally seen that what they said to be true not to be true. I purposley leave out what it was I have seen for more arguments would happen but I know for sure the laws surounding this situation are there on false assumptions. I at 6 years old remember seeing a news story adn even then saw the writing on the wall and new then more tyranny was to come from that and not better.
this was in the 70’s so…
But people don’t see us as Babylon for their false assumptions on were free and or the best country, ok I don’t want to go to North Korea, but we are doing the same but it’s hidden through law and that’s why people wont or don’t see it. That’s why we’re not immuned to God Judgement were the worst of the flock and is more likely why were the ones being hit the hardest with this Covid 19 crap.
The mark of the beast comes here as well not just Israel or the middle East, as I have seen one say on some other site. 10 kings within the beast as what hte crown of horns is supposed to represent could that be FEMA regions? I don’t see much of a Brexit and or other EU countries trying to break away too much.
So don’t believe it’s the EU going from where it is at now back down to 10 so…
It’s not ISIS they’re not gone but they wont rule not much more than they can through use of fear. Everywhere people say there it is there it is there it is never comes to power or they never do anything to match what it will be so look towards what is happening and who or what is ruling the world now.
We are Ephraim not Menasiah as some say for we are greater than the UK.
Australia is not part of the UK no more nor is Canada they are their own. India is not part of them either and we do have 50 countries or states plus we do rule the world not them. They did in the 1800’s but after that we did. What do some say as the NWO on our Seal says Out of many one…. There you go all together as one. But yes We are babylon I do believe and we will fall with violence so that is comming here even if you believe you can will it away, pray it away, think it away positive think it away, or use subterfuge as in bring doubt it away you can’t nor you wont.
OK so sorry some or lots of rambling and lots of grammar mistakes and punctuation mistakes but yes I believe our fall is coming and soon.
Since the Pandemic is world wide now where in the heck would we run?
I did and still do kind of agree that America is Babylon but for different reasons, but not sure if if nots Confusion instead. The tower of Babel set about confusion and today there seems to be more of that in regards to scripture than anything else. 10 differetn people can read the same thing and you would get 11 different answers, which to me seem to be one of the enemies strategy’s. Meaning Satan has it so no one dare say one thing is it and nothing else fits for I try and get told all the time how dare I say, what they believe is less than mine.
7 heads and ten horns is what I believe mean 7 continents so similar to what the article said but different reason. The water is self described as Peoples nations, Tongues and mulititudes and is man kinds creation or all the worlds Govt’s are mankinds creation so where in the world woudl we run to?
Meaning John was told that the water the beast comes out of is Peoples Nations Tongues and Multitudes and not it comes up from them so it is thier creation nothing else could be since it’s described as water. The water is the political arena and is out opinions and politics we’ve created. Many different countries now are in vye of a Vaccine for this Coronavirus, America being one of them and UK being the other. Flee to the mountains is what scripture does say when you see the abomination that makes desolate. If you are on the roof do not come down to take your cloak and when your in the field do not retrun home so since that also has implications of running or fleeing it says to go to the mountains. But my point as to where in the world would one go is this. Almost any country now, one would flee to will have the vaccine in some form or other. And most likely will be mandated in some way. USA is now thinking on ways to do that or people are worried about that where would one go???
Australia is thinking on making a vaccine mandatory. NZ has now FEMA camp like things going on to detain people long enough until they get tested and or when one comes get vaccinated or not go home.
The mark of the beast is also the biggest part of what is neccesary to flee not simply our country although I do beleive as with what it does say about the milstione being thrown into the sea and violence will come to it that means our Country, and possibly sooner than later since Leftists are out rioting from coast to coast now. Antifa has taken over Seattle and Portland, and NY. some letter to Trump suporters saying since it’s found out that you are a Trump supporter keep up your INS on your house. I guess if Trump wins they aim to Riot, but the right needs to too if Biden wins because Biden would make mandatory Masks and Vaccines… Our Country but all country’s when Jesus return and or near are to fall so no country on earth will be safe to go to is what I am saying or trying to say. With what is going on now in all the world.
North???? Canada where in Canada could you go and have your guns as you woudl need when shtf there as well??? Mexico the same…
UK they are doing mass shutt downs again now or begening to bring in shutdowns again since winter is close now. Europe? Again shut downs and mask mandates are there as well and more than likely to be forced or coerced vaccinations. Sorry but I do not think leaving America is the thing but heading to the Mountains or wilderness is… But do I still believe we’re Babylon yes but again for different reasons of which we would argue on. But one of the main reasons is more here than I know of has false teachings been taught but then agian the whole world has those same false teachings so…
Again where in the world giving the political upheavel the whole world is in now wea re to run to….?
csaaphill,
Forgive me, much of what you have posted I have a hard time understanding. Yet, it seems to me that you are asking a lot of good heartfelt questions. Of the questions that I can understand, I am certain that you can find the answers in Tim’s book and elsewhere on this site. Ask God for understanding.
I wanted to point out that you are right; there is safety in the mountains from the abomination of desolation. However, I think you may be confused on what the “abomination of desolation” is … it is not the same as the destruction of Daughter Babylon. Keep searching for answers and ask God for understanding!
Reply Well mostly was asking where would we run to since in the mess the whole world seems to be dogn the same. Lockdowns pretty much worldwide so pretty much no where to go. I refuse to eaven wear a mask so flying is out of the question. And forget Mexico or Canada they suck. Trudeau is a tyrant and with the cartells in Mexico you’d be lucky to not get killed.
Yeah I try to get a lot in at once so some of what I say gets lost in my trying to get what I beleive or think all in so…
Plus some of what I was saying was pointing out some things and do believe I am right for I did ask the holy spirit to lead me even before I picked up the bible for the first time,and just finished it for the third time the other night so don’t think I am wrong in what I said about it’s us as in mankind that’d made these beasts. Some say the water beast is in Europe and or the middleast but it isn’t it’s all over. Not jsut centered around The country Israel and that’s the biggest lie that has been taught.
Anyhows yeah Itry to get in too much stuff sometimes.
But just read there are over 40 million worldwide innfected and over 1 million dead so I don’t think it would be a good thing to leave and go anywhere, for you’de most likely have to quarantine for no less than 14 days then still be subject to their tyranny they hold, so yeah no unless the rapture is true then we’re pretty much screwed as for leaving the country.
Are you really questioning if God could find a way to overcome ONE virus to protect His children? He’s GOD and He requires FAITH.
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I read your synopsis about America being Babylon. It is interesting though scripturally it doesn’t work. The Bible says in Gal. 3 that human covenants are duly estabalished and cannot be set aside. America’s covenant with GOD disqualified her to be Babylon the great. Certainly the order to come out of her my people so you won’t share in her plaques requires a separation with an alliance not permitted by God. In order for America to come out of Babylon if she were Babylon means she would have to leave her country and her covenant! The covenant with the Heavenly Father cannot be set aside it is 1st. America would have needed to be Babylon then 2ndly have a covenant with the Lord to leave it! This is why it doesn’t work with the Bible!
This Babylon must be another place! The Bible says they would deceive the elect were it possible! Evil could trick America into being Babylon! No this is a place that Never ever had a covenant with god!
What covenant did America have with God? America was founded on the freedom to worship ANY god.
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Except that America did put the noahide laws into place during Reagan. Look it up. Whether you consider that a covenant or not is up to you. I guess it would depend on biblical definitions and maybe going back to the actual text of the Bible prior to translation, which is the problem when relying on one word to make an argument as big as this one. I believe america is Babylon and the little horn as well. I believe Obama will take over for Biden shortly (as I’ve heard many times recently through many prophets in modern times). It feels crazy to even say it out loud, but if it sounds crazy to you (any of this), you need to start reading the Bible for yourself and praying. Trust me because I was there too. Anyways, Obama will be king 5 and 8. He will take over through an amendment added by Pelosi where someone besides the Vice President can take over if the president is “unfit”, meaning mentally unstable. That would make Obama the man of sin and final president of America. It would make Biden #7, the king that is in power only for a short time and goes back to his riches to enjoy and dies neither by anger or through battle. He’ll also be known as the raiser of taxes in Daniel 11:20. Trump would be 6th, and he’s the one that stumbles, not heard from again, and turns to his estate. If you count backwards, raegan would be first with the noahide law. It makes sense if you look at how quick america has been changing since Reagan. You can go down the list and it lines up. Also, we have to remember (not meant as a political statement but fact) Obama was raised in Indonesia from ages 6-10 while the rest in Hawaii, and he attended both Muslim and catholic school in those 4 years, coming from nonbelievers with both mother and maternal grandparents who raised him other than the 4 years in Indonesia. That’s what they want us to know anyways, but who knows the truth of it as it’s been highly controversial; however, he will be the one to bring america down, and he’s ready. They are waiting on something to happen, but I don’t know what. When this happens, it will be confirmed that america is Babylon.
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Thank you for this page, its a great resource. There is new evidence pointing to the US as mystery babylon, I put this together in a video. Feel free to use the info/video in any way you like. I hope that it can add to your research.
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I wonder if this like many other prophecies has dual meaning.
Rome fits having 7 hills and 6 kings (5 died and the 6th was thrown out). America is seen as the new Rome. Google brings up many articles. How many saints did Rome slaughter.
The Vatican may fit here as well…The 900 yr old prophecy that Pope Francis is the last Pope and last Sept. he said that Catholics must obey the U.N.
If the beast rises from the U.N. it says the kings and the beast hate the woman. We know the U.S. is hated by many nations.
Holly, it’s not “7 hills” but 7 mountains which is a different Greek word. It’s not about Rome, Italy which has no mother country and is hardly the “hammer of all the earth.”
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Tim as regards 7 mountains, please research 7 mountains mandate. This is a literal fulfillment of this prophecy.
Also “Babylon the great, the mother of harlots” is written on the woman’s forehead. This implies, to me, both Babylon and the Harlot are one and the same.
So there is a distinction between the bride of Christ and the harlot. My point is this: the harlot has always been the harlot. She didn’t devolve into the harlot. She has always been false. Is it possible we got it wrong no matter how well intentioned. There is a perversion and falsehood to this that we are missing. There are clues such as manifest destiny. The Puritans spurned Dutch hospitality because the people were sinners. They fled to America based on lies. They weren’t prosecuted. It was greed plain and simple. They wanted land. They wanted control. They wanted to take unto themselves the resources. Revelation 17 and 18 describe a fake capitalist society cloaked in false religiosity.
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American was founded on a false religion, The Puritan mindset coupled with Freemasonry are both false. America DID kill the Catholic prophets, the Saints sent to convert them. America burned the mission churches set up inside her and tried to destroy Catholicism. Puritans were harsh and judgmental and not Christ like. Almost everyone involved in the inception of this country was a FreeMason!! You cannot ignore that. Jesus established the Catholic Church with his apostles and America rejected Catholicism. Study the history of America and the great saints like Junipero Serra.
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Sister cheryl, you re missing a whole bunch. The catholic church did and continues to this day to pervert true christianity that they stole from the Jews. The catholic church had a hand in much much misery and death.
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It was the Roman Catholic church who persecuted the “protestants!” It’s documented history!
There’s a book that details it with undeniable proof if you would dare read it. It’s title is: “The Churches of the Valleys of Piedmont.” It’s a horrible reminder of the hatred of the powerful.
While in this day and age, rome is not a “hammer” back in the day of Jesus and the jews, they were persecuted and blood spilled of many prophets by the romans they WERE the hammer. Not only did they have an untouchable military but trade and slaves, killing christians in the coliseum and much more. Rome ruled around a thousand years and they perverted christianity and it continues today. I won t debate the whole hill/mountain translation because one mistake it could easily be rome that is being talked about as mystery babylon to pay for what it did and many nations took part because of all those they took on like the borg on star trek to assimilate. There are scriptures that could possibly mean Rome that tie in and thinking of one but it escapes me. Sorry my recollecting isnt the best at times.
Interesting side note is a couple new towers of babel, do you think they have anything to do with Bible prophecy and factors in? The khalifa in dubai and 1 in strasbourg.
Dubai, is riddled with slavery, has great riches and trades. Im not sure if they sit on 7 hills/mountains. The biggest glaring thing missing from dubai is the lack of a mighty military. However, they do everything big. It could be possible thats on their plate as well with to s of wealth. If you look at their history the British were heavily involved and they were part of British India. The Brits got around. Your thoughts. Thanks and God Bless to all in this time of excitement.
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It seems President Trump has a Jesuit background – search ‘Trump Jesuit’. The Jesuits have played an overarching in furthering the Luciferian/Satanic agenda.
If Trump is indeed a Jesuit, the distinction between Rome/the Catholic Church/ America has become meaningless…. Sadly, the US as being the ‘whore of Babylon’ seems plausible.
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I came to this conclusion over 10 years ago. Although America was the greatest country ever for the most part in all human history, all it took was the acceptance of Satanic lies of Darwin to change it all and send it into becoming the creator of all the great lies and perversions of the world soon after. Trump tried but you can see that the evil of Babylon goes right to the top, judges who are the real rulers of America themselves. The evil of babylon is proven how with almost every single good thing Trump attempted, all it took was some demonic atheist judge to step in an literally overrule him, proving the presidency of the usa is really irrelevant at this point, the entire culture is so wicked there is no hope for it. All the globalist Darwinian Antichrist atheists have taken over all the main seats of power that they cannot be made war against anymore. The righteous will go down in glory wiping out millions of these wicked antichrists very soon, but in the end they will lose since the powers of the globalists, media and courts up to the judges themselves have no equal in their power in the entire world anymore. No one can amass an army of millions anymore, the globalists have indoctrinated everyone with the vile sickening NT doctrines of turn the other cheek, do not resist evil, pacifism, using the Bible against Christians, to control Christians, and in the end to destroy them, because all Christians are so whipped by the literal Bible lie that they fear eternal damnation if they were to ever lift a finger of violence to go to war against the wicked to save the country or the world from these Antichrist globalist powers. There will be a handful of the righteous who defy the sickening NT commands of pacifism, and they are spoken of in Revelation who will war against the Beast, but they will not be large in number. Vigilante action is the future of the righteous Christians who still exist in the world, all you who hear this and are not whipped by the NT “do not resist evil” bullshit must destroy all power structures of the Antichrist globalists leftists wherever you find them, destroy them all, you may save a few souls from martyrdom, enslavement, murder, rape, imprisonment, etc. if you have the guts to not fear hell for using all means of violence necessary to do so.
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You are talking about the Bible but spewing such hatred. Packard, just take a moment to read the bible, my friend. It does not advocate for the violence and hatred you are preaching. As Christians, we are told to love (or we are none of His), and to preach the gospel to all the world – the world needs to hear. Vengeance is mine, says God. The world needs to hear the good news. We do not take up arms or support violence against those who do not believe.
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“Vigilante action is the future of the righteous Christians who still exist in the world, all you who hear this and are not whipped by the NT “do not resist evil” bullshit must destroy all power structures of the Antichrist globalists leftists wherever you find them, destroy them all, you may save a few souls from martyrdom, enslavement, murder, rape, imprisonment, etc. if you have the guts to not fear hell for using all means of violence necessary to do so.”
Sir, as a muslim, I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. We muslims and christians are more alike than we are different. The Godless atheists and usurers on the other hand, consistently use force, deceit and control of various socio-political and economic systems to enrich themselves at the expanse of all others. This world has become completely dominated by Godless men and women, and people on Earth have completely lost the way.
What is needed is for the God-fearing muslims and the christians to recover the warrior ethos. The muslims and the christians need to stand up and speak out – that life on Earth is not about enriching yourself and constant endless economic growth through usury. The muslims and the christians need to speak out that life on Earth is about constant struggle, establishing God’s Commands, and taking care of the weak and vulnerable. If the muslims and the christians do this, then it is a given that the Godless men and women will attack them. The end is result will be Holy War.
There is no other option.
All praises belongs to God alone.
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Packard, hell is the place for all of those who oppose God Almighty.
Christians will rule the wicked with “a rod of iron”
not by turning the other cheek
Jesus said in Luke 11:21, ” When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are in peace.”
You are correct Packard! The so-called christians today are “whimps!” It’s amazing how little of the bible they even know because they won’t even read it much less study it!
My guess is Internet = Babylon.
Internet is a world wide net, distributed over 13 root servers, that reachs all 7 continents.
Day by day, people uses Paypal and VISA to purchase on Amazon, eBay or AliExpress. Each purchase produces a lot of polution by transport. Year by year, local stores have less stock and we are moved to buy more and more by Internet. Doing so we give our personal information to Microsoft, Amazon, Aliexpress, VISA and Paypal. You can’t conceive how many information gathers windows 10 just by using it.
Porn is half the traffic on the web. I think it’s corrupting enougth. Twitter and social networks are used to offense and expose privacy.
Traffic on the web is based on ports (Port 80 is the port of standard http protocol). So we have merchants and ports.
Also, all the traffic on the web is based on a mathematic factor. Each time we open a bank account or enter on a SSL site there are some math operations that are done to crypt our communications. Those operations are secured just because we have no mathematical theory to break it. It’s a prime-related factor of security, as the crypt is based on the multiplication of two prime numbers. Math theory has still not found a way to reverse it, but some day it will be possible, so commerce on the web or even online access will be broken. All will be easily hackable till we find a more secure way to crypt our data. If a nation discover a way to reverse that prime factor, NO more secure communications anymore.
Oh, and 666 can be found on any connection on almost any store on the world. Despite the popular www = 666 theory, that sounds a bit creepy, or the strange theory about chrome (ch-rome) icon being a 6 6 6. Anyway, almost all of the web browsers today are based on chromium. And my 5 cents, google…mmm…gog.
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Hello, I just happen to believe that America is called Babylon, in the future anyway.
In June 1996 I had a daytime vision, a http://www.VisionofSwords.com It was dramatic to say the least. I talk about it a lot on my website, http://www.sez33.com .
What I can say about it is that I can not ever forget it. God spoke to me about it the next night and so on.
So much has happened to me before, and after that, it has literally changed my life, but I don’t mind. He told me that I had to tell people about it, that sounds easy perhaps.
Anyway, I still live with that, and it has become the focus of my entire life. In fact I would be lost without having had that happen to me, it means so much to me now.
The wife and I have had Nine Children, try that on for size. We are all happy and everything’s fine, but still, it is difficult (the vision) at times.
So if you do believe it as I Most Certainly Do, please visit my site, the URL as I have mentioned, and drop me a line. Much Love and God Bless you all!! Bruce
I believe Mystery Babylon is Pergamos, Turkey. (Today Bergama, Turkey).
God tells us he knows where Satan Seat is and that He has a special judgment for the whore of the world, Satan’s Bride.
Mystery Babylon is destroyed on the 5th Bowl in Revelation 16:10.
Satan’s Bride is the Seat of Satan just as the Seat of God is Jerusalem or God’s Bride.
Revelation 18:23 states the Bride and Bridegroom will be heard no more.
The 5th bowl destroys Mystery Babylon and the 6th Bowl is when Antichrist is forced to walk into the Lake of Fire.
Revelation 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the Seat of the Beast, and his kingdom was full of darkness, and they gnawed their tongues for pain.
God Bless.
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People are confused by the 7 heads/7 mountains because these are not geographical locations but mighty kingdoms.
The Woman sits on seven mountains. A mountain symbolizes a larger nation, as Isaiah 2:2 shows: “Now it shall come to pass in the latter days that the mountain of the Lord’s house shall be established on the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills [smaller nations]; and all nations shall flow to it.” The number seven, combined with the symbol “mountains”—signifying “kings” or “kingdoms” as verses 9 and 10 show—indicates a perfect or complete sequence of seven kings.
Daniel tells us that the 4th Beast will consume the whole world and that once gone the other 3 Beasts will be around for awhile longer. These 3 other Beast are part of the 4 th Beast that consumes the whole world – The UN!!!.
Daniel first 3 Beast are nations/kingdoms and represent 6 of the 7 heads/mountains and they are the Lion (England), the Bear (Russia) and the 4 headed leopard (France who is part of the EU which has 4 presidents running it). The 7th head is the Dragon (China) who joins this Beast when it come out of the sea of people in Revelation. These 4 are the heads/permanent members of UN security council which run the UN, the 5th permanent members is the Woman (Statue of Liberty representing the US) who rides the UN which is also located in New York.
The 10 horns represent the 5 non member nations serving for 1 year and then being replaced by the 5 that have been training for a year.
The 10 members of the UN security council who run the UN are the 10 toes of Daniel, the mixture of peoples/nations.
Reply Martus, whoops: the 7 heads are interpreted by the angel in Revelation as both kings and mountains/or “geographic locations.” So those who say they are locations are not wrong. But I’m sorry, the UN has is impotent and has no power, it never has, and could never take over the world. But an empire run by a god-man (2Th 2:4) who has supernatural locust armies (Rev 9=Joel 2) could do just that.
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America and the European Americans weren’t always the Babylon Whore. For the first 350 years of our history America and European Americans were the mightiest Christian nation and people on the face of the planet. We’re even referred to in Daniel’s prophecies as that of “the mighty and the holy people”.
It wasn’t until after we abolished the daily school prayer and the anti-Mesegenation law in the 1960’s that we commenced to evolve into the full-blown Babylon whore that we are today.
And now we await the fiery judgment that’s forecasted against us in Revelation 18.
God, have mercy upon us!
Faye, yes, America was not always “Babylon the Great” because it started from colonies under Britain the greater before it became great around the 1920s with WWI. I disagree that the problem is not “prayer in school.” That idea distracts from the real issue of sin and sensuality like Rev 18 says. The problem is not something esoteric or rare but common selfishness we all succumb to. For help on what to focus on and repent of (not school prayer) see my checklist article.
Reply Tim, Whether you approved of school prayer and Bible reading, or no, the problem is that, fifty-six years ago America took away the daily school prayer, which is symbolized as “the daily sacrifice” in Daniel’s prophecies.
After that occurrence in 1963 America and we European Americans commenced our descent into the hell-hole that we find ourselves today, and which the Lord rightly defined as “Babylon the great”, and as “the whore” in Revelation.
As for Great Britain, it’s every bit as vile as America is today, nevertheless, it’s merely symbolized in Daniel 7:23 as that of “the fourth kingdom upon the earth” from which “the ten kings” (the European Americans) came out of.
I think you would agree that the meaning of end-time prophecies are very easy to interpret today, now that they’ve come to pass.
Reply Faye, I misunderstood. It’s an interesting question, when did America become great and wicked? I see the greatness came first with the WWs. But when did the wickedness fit? School prayer was one of many things in 1960s that could mark the complete transformation of America to Babylon the Great the whore. I’ll have to think more on this.
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I figured a lot of people would ask about this, when did America become so evil… Did you know the Native holocaust in America alone is estimated between 77-100 million Natives died over the centuries of colonization? Did you know that the trans-atlantic slave trade estimates are between 45-65 million died between the 16th and 19th century of slaves being brought over. What’s more is that those Negroes taken in the slave trade were exiled Jews who had built Jewish Kingdoms all throughout West Africa (and some in East and South Africa). This is why you will see the Kingdom of Judah on maps of West Africa dating back to the 1700s on the slave coast itself. This is also why the curses of Deuteronomy 28:15-68 completely match what the Negroes in the slave trade endured. The Natives were of the Northern Kingdom of Israel, long banished into Assyria and then migrated into the Americas. So America has a long standing pattern of having Israel in captivity. Anytime Israel is taken into captivity, God always ends up decimating their captor (Egypt being broken through Moses, Assyria was destroyed and abandoned and Babylon was destroyed by the Persians. Likely America will be destroyed by Russia i’m thinking but Israel will be called out of her first.
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“For the first 350 years of our history America and European Americans were the mightiest Christian nation and people on the face of the planet.” Simply not true. As Tim states, the US didn’t become a world power until the early 20th century.
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I have just finished reading 2 Esdras (which was in the original canon of the KJV). This book written by Ezra, explains the fourth beast in more detail than Daniel and claims such in chapter 11 of 2 Esdras. It is represented as an eagle (Rome) and shows Rome never really dies. This is a three headed eagle and the heads don’t wake up till the end and set about destroying each other. Very interesting reading and basically backs up what Tim has been saying about the destruction of America but it may also foretell the destruction of Russia as well.
SO, yes I believe America is part of Babylon along with any nation claiming descent from Rome (Europe, America, Russia, etc.). Three great powers arise from the same people of Rome and begin to destroy each other until one remains that produces the man doomed to destruction. According to Ezra, a descendant of Esau. Ezra also says it is the wicked inventions of this kingdom that destroys the world.
Another chapter, 16, interestingly says woe to both Babylon and Asia (China?) with Egypt and Syria. Another interesting chapter of prophecy of destruction. I would suggest anyone who has doubts of whether Tim is on the right track or not should read 2 Esdras that was considered sacred scripture in Jesus’ time and up to 1611 until someone decided to remove it.
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Yes, America is the New Babylon. I have known this for years. How can SHE not be? The Statue of Liberty herself speaks volumes.
These visions came to me long ago.
So many ppl want to think America has done nothing wrong, and that God blesses her and always will. I can see plenty that America has done wrong. I’m not going to act as if we’re a perfect and righteous country, because it’s far from the truth.
I don’t hate my country, but I can surely see we’ve done plenty wrong.
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Thank you for this article!
I believe we will be taken up in Jesus’ 2nd coming JUST before this happens. That’s what is meant by “come out of her”. We have way too many “saved” than any other nation & it would be too revealing if half the country disappeared.
Good article. Needed! However, leaving now, if you’re capable, should be an option. The safest option, in my opinion, wheather destruction comes tomorrow or in another 2,000years, would be to leave now.
I can eeloborate, but would rather a conversation, the. To simply issue a monologue. However, there is solid proof and reference for this argument. Regardless of the difficulties and hardships, leaving now is the best option.
One important thing I’d like to add to this page, which was spot-on. Babylon is called the “hindermost of the nations”, that being the last nation formed before the antichrist does away with all nations. As much as I was sure America was Babylon, this didn’t seem to fit for the longest time. But look around you: the country is full of those who seek to abolish the Constitution and outlaw Christianity, and they are threatening violent overthrow. If the Constitution is overthrown, by definition a new nation is formed overnight. It is almost certain that if this happens, the slaughter and persecution of Christians will be widespread, thus fitting the passage that she is “drunk on the blood of martyrs and saints”. This needn’t have happened over time and can happen very promptly. Remember: Babylon begins as a Christian nation but in her last days turns suddenly and violently anti-Christian (she turns as a “bear on its haunches”). I don’t like conspiracy theories, but it’s interesting how much information they’ve produced about Denver International Airport and the compound that’s been built beneath it. It is my belief that plans are in place to herd Christians onto trains similar to what the Nazis did with Jews and rail them to DIA for liquidation. Maybe it’s hysteria, but I shan’t be getting on any train at gunpoint.
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Yes there are compounds for resisters, but as for timing, why wouldn’t it be concurrent with the reign of the beast after America is destroyed? They’re underground in part to withstand the expected above-ground destruction. The bear of Daniel 7:5 is associated with the beast of Revelation 13:2, not Babylon, and I can’t think of any other relevant bear references. I think you’re giving heed to certain theories out of fear instead of calm curiosity. The conspiracy theories I have more confidence in include a reactionary turn to the political right in order to deceive more Christians. How crazy the political left (antithesis) will become in the States, I don’t know, but already the worldwide trend is toward a quasi-Christian-protectionist center (synthesis). Such a synthesis will not be complete until the beast comes to power, but the power at work behind it has been hunting down true followers of Christ for centuries, though within America’s borders using mostly softer means such as disinformation and reeducation.
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I was brought up to believe that America is not mentioned in the Bible during the End Times. I was brought up believing that the Beast is the revived Roman Empire and that the Great Babylon is the world system. I started reading Rev 18 over and over again and the plain reading tells me that the Great Babylon refers to America.
Rev 18:4 tells God people to come out of her and yet in 2016, 81% of Evangelicals set aside God’s standard, detailed in Ex 18:21, Deut 1:13, and 2 Tim 3:2-7 to vote for a unrepentant serial liar and adulterer to do what? Yes, to Make America Great Again. These two lines have been playing in my mind over and over, Make America Great Again…..Come out of her that you may not share in her plagues…….I am starting to see the connection.
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King James 2000
Yea, they made their hearts as a flint stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts has sent by his Spirit through the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts.
What you’re saying shows hatred, judgment and disrespect. I’ve seen all “Birds of the same flock”.
If you’re a true Christian, say what the Lord teaches. So all need to stay on your knees, Repent. Satan in you guys bed are walking you down there. Prayers for you guys. Peace.
William, keep seeking the truth. The spirit of truth is in what you have said. Nathan Leal has an excellent video on Trump , about freemasonry and the symbols he uses. Especially his Trump tower…
USA politics is staged Theatre!! The scandals, the dislike of each other.. they are completely controlling the perception of the masses.. Trump is being setup to swoop in and save the people, To be the saviour of America… Who is the one that will deceive many?? I have never seen so many Christian ministers enamoured by a person before , they rave about Trump. He may be one of the top bad guys of all time.. This is where the Holy Spirit has lead me, Seek and ye SHALL FIND!! Gods word is infallible!
John Bagot Glubb, in his essay “The Fate of Empires,” surveyed the history of eleven empires and found the median duration to be 250 years. Five of the eleven lasted between 246 and 250 years: Assyria, Arab, Ottoman, Spain, and Britain. You could argue that some of these durations were arbitrarily defined, but it’s difficult to ignore the pattern entirely. The United States reaches 250 years in the year 2026.
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There is no doubt that the USA is Mystery Babylon and New York is the epicenter. There is a town of about 250,000 people on Long Island called, wait for it Babylon! Besides the Bible I urge people to read the Apocrypha and in particular the second book of Esdras. It couldn’t be any clearer. There is no doubt that Syria is where it ends for the US. Esdras even describes stars falling and large clouds rising from the desert full of lightening bolts. He describes the 4th Kingdom of Daniel as being more terrible and powerful than any before and represented by a 3 headed eagle….
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BABYLON USA, Commentary and Review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHmbQQ77l78
I heard all the time in my head this morning that USA is the new babylon and Rome, who is deceiving Christians all over the world. That was the reason I opened internet try to find out the thinking of other brothers and sisters. Interesting to read.
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Hi Tim.
Looks like the thought police have confiscated your video. Great work on your blog!
Marcial, what is the mother country of China that gave birth to her like the UK did for the US (Jer 50:12)?
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Yes! This is true.
Jeremuah ch 50, ch 51
Babylon the hammer of the whole earth. Used by YHVH to destroy nations. ( she does this secretly while lying to its people that she is ” doing good”). It was founded on bloodshed, YHVH “says ” woe to cities established by bloodshed”.
He has always wanted His people to obey His commands, and He detests their idols. Such is the apostate religions today, they can’t even recognize a believer by their obedience to YHVH’S ways, but instead follow every false doctrine/ religion of man. The apostate religion teaches many that He is a lawless God. That His Son came and was lawless.
Quite opposite He lived and taught His Father’s commands.
Those serving the ” rulers” of earth such as Trump, are very deceived, just as the apostate churches were that followed hitler.
They think evik is goid and good is evil.
Proverbs 28:9 says those that do not hear the law of YHVH even their prayers are an abomination.
Revelation 14:12
The saints are those that keep the commandments of YHVH and their faith in Yeshua ( they call Jesus)( sorry no ” j” in hebrew)
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Hi Tim have a read and tell me what you think
Not a Christian but a Muslim here and we also do believe in the Bible and it’s prophecy’s from the Book of Revelations even if the media and others portray that we don’t, but Islam was not created by Catholicism even though all the people reading this are Christians you should read the end of times prophecy’a from the Quran they also have a further message to what the Bible states and most are very similar, we do believe in the Bible but we believe it has changed as in the New Testaments. The Book of revelations has a lot of things we do believe is going to happen most Christians I presume please don’t think we don’t believe in the Bible or we just disrespect it physically that is not true we believe it has the same amount of respect as the Quran, my personal bible is in the same place as my Quran a high up clean area the way we have to respect the Quran is the exact same as the Bible. The zionists control the USA not the true believing Christians is hasn’t been because the USA was the country made to be what it is today think about the USA’s history and how it is a superpower think about WW2 the USA was in the Great Depression when the war ended it became superpower it actually benifitted from the war it became rich by owning other countries debt such as the U.K. who went financial broke if it wasn’t for the USA the weapons it sold and and made the steel it sold made it rich. The Zionist Jews control the USA they are following the orders of the Anti christ who has not shown his face yet to the world but will very soon I believe look how the world is now he is already working behind the scenes. The USA will fall from a Third World War with a significant decrease in the world population, people reading this comment may see Islam as incredibly evil trust me do some research with a positive mind free from hate and you will understand the media representation is false and also ISIS represents less than 0.01% literally even research that figure. I even believe the Kings of Saudi Arabia are Zionist Jews they created a different type of Islam and spread it through the world a high proportion of Muslims reject the Saudi version.
The world is new place where adultery and even same sex marriages are either the social norm or is even legal by law in the past 100 years how much has the world changed exclude the the years of WW2 as in how much have people began to unfollow the word of God, atheists are on the rise which I believe is even worse than following pagan religions. Our two religions share so much similarities, there is even prophecies of where the Christians and Muslims will fight against the Jews and the anti-Christ, the division in the world between our two great and and the two largest religions is by the zionists for there own agenda. We even believe that the prayers of Christians and Jews are accepted by god as we all believe in the same god, Allah is God in Arabic there is literally no difference, our religions share a lot together and even history together look up Muslim Spain yes there has been wars such as the crusades which I also believe has something interesting about it which I won’t go into on this comment at the moment and also research on some of the prophecy’s from the Quran because I was doing the same in the opposite way I studied the Bible it increased my belief in God as the signs from the Book of revelations stated has to some extent already happened or things are falling into place for them signs to happen and more is yet to come. What the News outlets and social media say with there examples of what the Quran states their examples are literally written up and not in the Quran.
Those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabaeans and the Christians, all who believe in Allah and the Last Day and act rightly will feel no fear and will know no sorrow. (Surat al-Ma’ida, 69)
There is a community among the People of the Book who are upright. They recite Allah’s signs throughout the night, and they prostrate. They believe in Allah and the Last Day, and enjoin the right and forbid the wrong, and compete in doing good. They are among the righteous. You will not be denied the reward for any good thing you do. Allah knows those who fear Allah. (Surah Al’Imran,113-115)
– Sabeans to my knowledge are followers of John the Baptist or have some regarding John the Baptist.
– Prostate means bowing down to god, I have read in the Bible that Jesus literally also bowed down to God.
Please to the people who want to say something bad towards me or the religion I follow to refrain from doing so.
I happened to come on to this page to do further research and am glad I found this page, Tim what you said is pretty much what I see of the world now aswell and what Babylon really is but I do believe that the USA is the king of kings especially at this moment of time.
I read Quran too and don’t understand Islam. You said, Quran is based on Old Testament and you also believe in Revelation.
1.Why Muslims insist to use the name Allah as God. If Allah is God in arabic, what is the problem to use HIS True name? Our TRUE GOD has a name as HE told Moses (you call him Musa), YHWH. Why you don’t stick to the True Name of GOD instead keep the name Allah?
2.Quran changed all names except Allah and Mohammed. The true GOD YHWH changed the name from Abram to Abraham and Sarai to Sarah and Quran dared to change the name of Abraham to Ibrahim, against GOD’s will.
3.Why changed the Shabbat and replaced with the time from Thursday to Friday (instead of Friday to Saturday)
4.Our Saviour, LORD Yeshua really keep the 10 Commandments. But NOT your prophet Mohammad who killed and murdered people. That’s why ISIS and fanatic Muslims have no problem with murdering and killing since your prophet is their idol. Don’t come now with the argument with ‘Christian crusade’. It was more political than something to do with faith. For me ‘Crusade’ has nothing to do with the New Testament.
5.Many other contradiction to Old and New Testament
Brother, our father in heaven is Almighty God Allah Jehovah. God is known by many names, according to His different qualities and activities. in the Quran he is know as Allah (“the great one”), and for the Japanese, in the Tenrikyo as Tenri-Ō-no-Mikoto (神天理王命), etc. “The day is coming when God will simply be called the Creator. At that time, all the names that He took on earth shall come to an end, for His work on earth will have come to an end, after which He shall have no name” Yahweh (יהוה) in The Glorious Qur’an: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Uzbp0Xino&gl=SG&hl=en-GB . May the spirit of TRUTH guide us to the TRUTH.
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I am a Christian that believes that our two religions have much in common especially with regards to the endtimes. Many Christians believe that antichrist will come from the land of the Roman Empire. The Romans were the people that destroyed the Second Jewish Temple as mentioned by the Hebrew prophet Daniel (Daniel 9:26). I believe the imam Yasir Qadhi had also mentioned the antichrist/Ad-Dajjal coming from the area of Europe (Daniel 9:26). Some of the ancient church fathers believed he will be from the Hebrew tribe of Dan (Azhkenaic?) and claim to be the Jewish messiah. Antichrist/Dajjal is prophesied to take over the rebuilt Jewish temple and claim to be God. (Daniel 9:27, 11:36-37). Antichrist/Dajjal will also wage war on Muslims because he breaks a treaty he had signed with the Muslim countries and attacks them. Antichrist will also be wounded and lose sight in one of his eyes like al masih Ad-Dajjal. (Zechariah 11:12, Revelations 13:3)
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I don’t believe in the rapture. I haven’t for a long time now. This just sums up why. People think I’m crazy for even speaking out against it though. I have read the Bible cover to cover and have NEVER found any scriptures saying it. I have researched it and the “scholars” assumed we would be because Americans aka Christians, weren’t mentioned in the end time prophesies. We have been mislead by them for centuries and believe we are safe as long as we claim to know God. I have friends who have never read the Bible and believe everything their Pastors say about it. My heart breaks for them!
Reply Rebecca, everything you said applies only to the fantasy “stay wicked as you are” pretrib rapture doctrine. The prewrath/posttrib rapture to reward righteous saints (only) is spoken of by Jesus, Paul and the Book of Revelation.
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I will like to contribute one small item to the statements above to USA achieving the Great Babylon position.
During the Great Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar took the Jews under his authority and what originally was a hostage situation, Babylon became the protector from God to the Jews.
After the 2nd world war, USA took under their mantle many Jews and since then USA has enlarge its wealth and science through the coverage of God of His people.
However in the start of this genocide, USA had the power to avoid the murder of so many innocent and did nothing until it was financially necessary. The blood of the prophets and the saints are on USA, not because they killed them but because having the capacity to do something stood back and watch.
This adds a valid statement of the Babylon of Nebuchadnezzar with the Jews and covers the blood of the prophets for which Great Babylon will fall.
Make America Great again is a slogan that the more is broadcasted the more is a trumpet sound of end of days.
As rough as the end of days might be, the Lord is with us and His peace is the most comforting feeling that can be. Trust in Him cause regardless of the prophesies and fulfillment, His love is permanent and perfect. Prophecies do not ensure our anyone’s survival but His love ensures our inheritance in heaven. God bless everyone.
The US is the most sinful country in the world, the only thing that makes them look good is the fact that they control the web’s news and dont allow the world to see the real evil in this world, and they have very clever tactics to cover up all the evil things they do in this world, like seriously if you live in 2018 and you still think the US is good you my friend are still living in the clouds and needs to wake the fuck up. The US is babylon! The bible says every nation in the world would drink out of yhe wine of thr great perverted nation, and guess what? Every country in this world is drinking out of the wine of this American nation. And the reaskn why it says city instead of country is that ofcourse in the ancient times when the bible was written, any nation was jusf a city in those times and thats why they calk yhe US a city, simple they didnt have the same interpretations modern society has nowadays. Please dont believe anybody with a charming talk or good looks as they are evil, sinister, hypocrites, you will never find the Truth in them.
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I feel a lot of hatred in this post, Raindeer. There really is no need to use profanity, as your message is loud and clear without it. In my opinion, for what’s its worth, not everyone with “charming talk” or “good looks” are evil, sinister…., but that every soul on this earth is a masterpiece of God and worthy of forgiveness and have true beauty inside them. It’s up to their own free will to allow God to work his magic through them.
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I’ve come to the conclusion that the reason the end times prophesy doesn’t make perfect sense is because we’re not close to that time. I’d love for Jesus to come down in the clouds tomorrow and I’ll be watchful and ready whenever He comes but realistically it could very easily not come for hundreds or thousands of years. I do know from reading scripture that when we are close to the tribulation we will know without a doubt it’s near. In the meantime we need to live for God and obey him. I pray all us will find salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord! And be ready for the Wonderful day we Join our Father in his Kindom! If anyone has not found salvation, today eternal life can be achieved.
Pray sincerely “Dear Lord, I know I am a sinner and that I deserve Hell. I believe you died on the cross, paid the penalty for my sin, and rose from the dead three days later. I am placing my faith in you alone to forgive my sin and save me. Thank you for giving me eternal life. In Jesus’ name, Amen.”
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Drunk with the blood of the saints — abortion. God has known his own since before the foundation of the world.
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Interesting article. What if the Rapture coincides with the destruction of the United States as a world power and is its immediate cause? Then, what if a British Jew is revealed as the Antichrist. Then, what if what is left of America after the city of Babylon (New York or DC) is destroyed. And what if the 10 kings are in fact the 10 governors of the 10 FEMA regions that would surely be activated during such a crisis. And, what if all but 3 of them gave their power to the Antichrist and the others were conquered?
Reply Scott, that’s a lot of what-if’s =). The rapture comes at the end of the Great Tribulation (Mt 24:29-31) and Scripture indicates that before that “Babylon has fallen” is declared (Rev 14:8 cf Rev 14:9 mark at start of GT). So the rapture and fall of America cannot be concurrent events if we believe plain Scripture.
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hi Tim, it is now July 2020, Based on what is happening now, what do you think will be the trigger for other nations to destroy America? Do you think it will be that America falls to Communists who commit genocide against resistors?
Reply DJ, it has always been Wormwood’s sudden appearance in the sky is what triggers the long-planned Russian attack on America.
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The AC will come out of the region of SE Europe / Turkey and lead whatever replaces the European Union (which will lose seventeen member states in the near future). No serious authority on the Bible ever stated that the AC would come out of the UK. The UK has left the EU, which is further proof that the AC won’t be British.
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The holy Spirit has been speaking to my heart and my life . The lord took my spirit up in the clouds one day while asleep on my chair and i saw people worshiping and i saw a big golden clock and the hour hand went back a hr from 12 to 11 ,what the lord was showing me that the time is near for his return and by his grace he giving us time to repent and the gift of salvation. I ALSO see the danger coming to AMERICA look at North KOREA…….LET US BE WATCHFUL AND PRAY IN JESUS NAME.
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Tim, “The love of money is the root of all evil” in America. We are a nation of addictions, which are born and fueled by an economic system which thrives on the love of money. Gambling, pornography, opioids, alcohol, the movie, music, television, and video game entertainment industry, usurious credit card usage and more have made us, and ‘the whole world drunk with madness’. The handwriting is on the wall.
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Tim, great article. I don’t see the difficulty you alluded to with regard to explaining how America killed the saints and prophets etc. Many sages were among the Indians slaughtered by the early settlers for instance. And what about the likes of Dr Martin Luther King Jr, Malcolm X, and even JFK? And what about the numerous foreign leaders who wanted to do right by their people, but were assassinated or overthrown by US/western intelligence agencies? The ancient manner of referring to such shining lights of morality and justice would be via the use of such terms as prophets and saints. In our day, they would simply be known as ‘dissidents’, ‘radicals’, and even ‘communists’. So I see no difficulty at all in explaining those bible verses.
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America killed God ‘s chosen people, transatlantic slave trade. 1619 next year is the end of slavery. 400 years in captivity
Nigros are real Hebrew Israelis. It is there in the bible. Read Detereonomy chapter 28
2 Esdras 2:7
I’m really enjoying the read. I see in this country to be great again but with no definition on what great is. A corrupt government, 62% of the world porn, gay marriage, and on and on. Then you try and predict a date. A place where it clearly states in the Bible that you don’t go to. No one knows. Another ego with end time date predictions. How sad. All you can do is be wrong. Because if you are right it doesn’t matter. Don’t demean your teaching with silly predictions.
Reply Chuck, glad you liked the article. However I am not setting a single date nor making predictions. Supporters ask me all the time my opinion on what year I think it will be? 2026 is my answer; simply my personal conviction, no prediction. But it can be later. I share it for those who are finally learning to do what Jesus said from my supporter teachings and want the extra urgency of knowing based on the one scriptural end time sign of Mt 24:14. I’m not explaining my date in a free video or article with people like you who don’t understand “no man knows the day or hour” and who will only judge or get scared.
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In 2008, two weeks before Obama was elected, I was in Washington D.C. for prayermarch and tried also to speak with the american people but almost everybody said, that he is a christian and so I asked God: what do you say about America? He gave me only one word: mystery. I knew than Amerika is Mystery Babylon and will be destroyed in one hour. Amerika musst be destroyed, so the way for the Antichrist can be free and as I understand Tim and others he should come out of Mother Babylon, the UK. I believe it is too late for Amerika, God gave Amerika a lot of time for repentance. Amerika will never be great again. Not only millions were killed through abortion but also many innocent people in Iraq, Afganistan, Syrien, Pakistan, etc. were killed and don’t forget: millions of christians in Europe, Asia, Africa, South Amerca, etc. are on their way to hell, deceived through the false gospel of the false prophets and pastors of America. The influence is enorm, the destruction is immense. I was in Africa in June, I saw the deception and destruction. So prepare for the judgments of God and prepare others.
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Through abortion, there’s no telling how many prophets have been slaughtered. We as a government, as recently as Obama have funded abortion worldwide. Even today, John McCain voted against a bill that would have defunded PP. I think we’ve grown insensitive to just how great of an atrocity abortion is. There is certainly the blood of saints and prophets on our hands. Additionally, groups like ISIS were created by America, either directly or indirectly. As a result of our money making warmongering, or by arming certain groups of rebels for one purpose or another. Those groups go on to form ISIS, who committed Christian genocide, as described by our own government, under the Obama admin even.. Recently heard some government department is trying to scrub the term Christian genocide from our records, as they relate to the genocide that I just mentioned.
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Elijah I have a bad feeling you’re onto something here.
With those wars that the USA has prosecuted over 241 years since it was born I would be surprised to say the least if any prophet was not killed in any of those wars.
That isn’t even mentioning abortion. Any nation that kills babies in the womb doesn’t have any regard for life which is a gigantic no-no when it comes to Yehovah.
Hi Tim
I’ve been following your articles for a while now and I have to say they really are gold compared to the piles of mud I’ve seen elsewhere.
Also I wanted to mention one thing that you omitted from this article and that is that Tyre is actually a shadow of Mystery Babylon as mentioned by the prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel.
Since Tyre is a merchant city which also commits fornication with the kings of the Earth just like Mystery Babylon does, that is another reason why only the USA fits the description.
There are more pointers but those are the points that really stood out to me along with music not being played in Tyre anymore.
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The article presented is written with great insight. There was a time I thought it was Rome but after much reading and understanding I agree it is New York City.
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Not DrainTheSwamp Washington DC? That’s where the Fed, Treasury, Bureau of Public Debt, Commerce Department, IRS, Economic Development Office and al of the International Embassies. So, should we consider emigrating? To where? Things look very weird lately. LiesVegas, HornyWeird,, Podestas, R Clinton etc indictments, Texas Church Shooting; Thankfully Trump safely away from fallout. FalseFlags abounding.
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Spot on Tim. Your interpretation of prophecy rings so true to what has been going on. I grew up looking up to America’s system. In the recent years, God revealed mind shattering truths about the establishment. I am afraid, there is a great deception going on in the US and the whole government,media and system is so deeply corrupt and evil that only the wrath of God could do justice.
The problem is greed, which is idolatary. And God is removing idolatory from our lives. It could come in the form of a favourite politician, political party, movie star, even evangelist. -when our adoration for them precedes the word of God and his laws. You know there is idolatory when their faults are criticised and you take offense. Now is the time to come “out of her.’ (Romans 2:4-11)
Reply Susan, yes, rampant greed, materialism, sensual have corrupted American society. However, “come out of her” (Rev 18:4) refers not to repentance but to an actual move in the future fleeing America before she burns, so you don’t burn with her. It’s not time to do that yet…
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Excellent lesson, Tim! Probably your best-so far…Many years ago I bought Richard Coombes’ “America, the Babylon” and also got his valuable DVD…
Un fortunately he has passed away…but I believe you have taken his place preaching the truth…
I’m not so sure about 2026 though…I just can’t foresee things taking that long…We must all be waiting and watching for Elijah!
Christ’s blessings,
Lar
Tim,
I just want to say thank you for publishing all of this publically so lost sheep like myself can confirm your words with scripture and validate what I have found in my heart to be true. It’s so hard to discern in these times and the “church” has not been a safe place for me to receive help or ask questions. You are answering many of the questions I have had regarding my reading/interpretations of scripture that have not been safe to ask elsewhere. Bless you!
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Tim, Very sobering. I’m going to keep my eyes wide open. It would figure that 2026 might be “it.” That was when I was hoping to retire. But this is far more important than relaxing for a few more earthly years of life. Do you feel that if America repented that God might relent on judgment as He did with Nineveh?
Reply Mark, yes, as Americans, it is sobering to know how God views our nation and what he must do for its sins.
That’s an interesting “what if” about America repenting. Theoretically, yes, it would be delayed as that is God’s nature. His mercy is borne out not just in the story of Nineveh but also in the lives of the Kings of Israel and Judah.
However, unlike Nineveh, two things are different in this case. America’s destruction has been received and written by multiple prophets of the Bible, thousands of years before the country was even founded. It won’t change: “it is written.” Secondly, no prophet like Jonah is being sent to America with the purpose of saving the nation. Instead it is clearly stated the “voice from heaven” (Word of God) is sent to call God’s people out (Rev 18:4). Jeremiah 51:9 says “we would have healed Babylon, but she was not.” So it’s too far gone to fix with how rich and corrupted the generations are.
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Tim that’s a good point about Elijah calling the people out, not calling America to repent like Ninevah.
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tim,
what about those who are in mini babylons i.e. those countries that take after the customs of usa, like australia,NZ.UK etc?will they hear the voice from heaven to leave their countries?
Mikhael, there are no “mini Babylons” just Mother and Daughter Babylon named in Scripture. The other countries may be ex-colonies of the UK, but they are not so wicked to be called Babylon. But because of the global Wormwood cataclysm (which happens almost simultaneous with WW3), all saints of all countries must listen to Elijah and leave home for Judea to be safe at the same time before America is destroyed which will sink the world economy to the point you need to be in God’s safe place.
Reply 350 million people wouldn’t repent anyhows. Revelations does say they didn’t repent and cursed god for all the plagues anyhows so no repentance is coming.
and yes no to making of any dates. Once one does that it never happens.
This is quite an eye opener. Babylon the Great must be America. The destruction is coming. Forget not that the second coming of Jesus is between 2018 and 2028. Lord give us strength to be able to pray, read the Bible, be witnesses of Jesus Christ, to praise and worship you and give our tithes like Abraham and offerings so that your message can reach the all face of the earth.
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No one knows the day nor the hour except for the Father. So get those years right out of your head and recognize only tbe season your in by the signs of the time.
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You have made many compelling points, brother. But I find it difficult to ignore the book “Foxe’s book of Martyrs”. In the book it lists numerous Christian leaders killed as a witness for Jesus Christ. Many of the very early Christians was killed by the Romans at the Jews urging, but from about 300 A.D. on, almost 100% of these commited Christians was murdered by the Catholic church, or at the very least, by the local authorities that was obeying the wishes of the Catholic hierarchy! As for the seven hills/mountains, many times the word is referring to places of power or high places just as “horn” refers to descendants . I Love your discernment and hard work doing these studies. Please keep them coming!
Reply Abe sure, there are always a couple of Babylon’s characteristics seem to fit your favorite candidate, like the Vatican killing saints and prophets. But only one will fit them all, America. For example, the Catholic Church has not made the world’s seafaring merchants rich. It has no mother country. It has no deep sea water port for the merchants. It does not fit the eagle’s wings and lion beast literally. And it’s not a city on seven mountains. It’s on seven hills, two different words in Greek. America has killed many righteous saints who have stood up. Think of the greed and power in corporations killing people for profit. It’s all there.
Reply tim good observations
but we’re not there yet so the earth could open up between the sea and the vatican
also ‘washington dc’, the ‘city of london’ and the ‘city of vatican’
rule the world via their connections in commerce and war etc etc.
I believe that the jesuit catholics control all these institutions and places ultimately and most of todays american leaders are jesuit trained or influenced.
I’m currently researching whether the catholics invented islam as a proxy to wipe out true believers and jews
Hello Mikhael, not sure if this will still get to you but I have had that same feeling that the Catholic Church/Jesuits had a hand in creating Islam. Their quran book has a chapter exhaulting Mary and it just seems like the perfect religion to fit the need for exactly what is happening now…the antithesis of true Christianity…so that as many souls as possible will fall into this new world order Jesuit created “CHrislam” New Age religion for the antichrist and false prophet to peddle. I could only find a little info about the widowed wealthy RC woman who made her way to middle east to make/find her new messiah for the muslims …I would LOVE to see any proof you have culminated of this as being an RCC creation…as you already know finding dirt on the Jesuits is much harder to find that on the Zionists (that they also had a hand in creating/funding organizing etc) …whose purpose is, I think for the Jesuits to hide behind as their scape goat for all ills of the world.
Anyway, can you enlighten me with any source backed articles or forward anything you have culminated on RCC created Islam? I would do a Youtube Video on it …i’m getting pretty good traction on my channel now and its’ growing fast. We could even do an interview about it if you are already well versed…i think this content would blow peoples hair back! LoL I just know it’s true…Holy spirit is showing me that…I just can’t prove it yet. Thanks in advance…God Bless!
ps also if Tim happens to read this, I sure do appreciate this article. I have made an america is babylon youtube video and your article helped me 🙂 I’m making part two now and one note i’ll share (that Holy Spirit showed me) is the scripture about “Drunk with the blood of the saints” …well I was shown (because I was lead to look up the strongs concordance for the word Saints” its’ NT 40) and wow…that scripture is pertaining NOT to just religious type saints but its meaning is “pure” Undefiled and Clean ” as pertinaining to a sacrifice…brother , that scripture is about ABORTION. we’ are up to like 70 million dead babies at this point. its crazy. anyway, Thanks again for this article! We have come to many of the same conclusions and there are still a lot of people who need to know this stuff….judgement is coming SOON…..Lord Bless and Keep You
Reply We can now count all those we (UK and US) failed to protect in Russia, then in WWII, Cuba, and various Communist genocides and ISIS massacres of Christians in Middle East, Europe and Africa by being weak Christians and PC.
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Just a thought; “This is why I am sending you prophets, sages, and scribes. Some of them you will kill and crucify … ! ). What other nation in history has more Scripture available per household in a myriad of forms from Bibles to digital files ? How many times are Believer’s warned in Scripture to NOT, ” add to nor take away from “, the words of this Book/Prophecy ? Is there not a curse provided for those who willingly do so and assert the EDITED TRUTH as “The Gospel”. Scripture consists of the Prophet’s, the Righteous and the Messiah’s WORDS , yes? How many sects of Christianity have been born in America by changing the meaning of their WORDS ? My opinion is that America has killed, tortured, even crucified the Lord of Glory through it’s arrogance in USING God’s WORD for denominational agenda’s etc. etc. America is perhaps the biggest abuser of profiting off ” another gospel” so yeah, I can see how the BLOOD of all these righteous men and women can be on America’s “hands”. What other Nation has made so much merchandise off Scripture by CHANGING the holy days and commandments as they pertain to the Kingdom ? The Messiah, Prophets and the Righteous testimonies were sent to us IN WRITING and we took their warnings/words the same way Israel did, with little regard or casual observance. Shalom
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I disagree, according to geographical definition there are only 6 continents, (large land mass, from the western coast of Europe to the east cost of Asia is one continent). If you looked down on the earth from space you see 6 large land masses not 7. If you consider geopolitics you end up with more than 7 major powers. Keep looking.
Reply Ron, Tell me where it says in Rev 17 “The 7 heads are 7 mountains AS SEEN FROM SPACE (by angels, of course!) and not according to the popularly accepted definition of continents by mankind.” Seven happens to be the biblical number for completion = the whole earth.
Reply Technically, all of the continents are attached to another except for Australia, and Antarctica, right? Regardless, how long have we used the term 7 as the complete whole number of parts of the earth? I actually don’t know. It was 2: Heaven + Earth; then 4 corners of the Earth; then 7! I do think its US and I never used to think that.
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So Britain and America are not ephraim and mannaseh? Company of nations and a great nation
Reply Ervin, yes they are (but I think you have it backwards US=Ephraim, the younger son–but greater, UK=Manasseh, the elder son–but lesser). That is why they were/are both so great. And the Daughter/Mother Babylon the Great prophetic identity shows their corrupted end because of the wealth bestowed through Abraham’s birthright blessings. America gets judged and Great Britain becomes the “head” (of a lion – Rev 13:2) of the Beast/Antichrist empire.
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Roger, Revelation 18 is talking about the “merchandise” traded in and through America with the “merchants.” It’s not only or necessarily talking about what it produces or grows. Think about the stock and mercantile exchanges and port with all that is brought in and out and sold making people rich. More here.
Nevertheless, all it takes is one grower for the prophecy to not be contradicted with America, and there is one.
At the time the bible was constructed, America had not yet come into existence, so the name Babylon was only a symbolic name for a future place that would exist. I assure you, America is that mystery Babylon.
Reply That tree was in a later translation. Most translators chose a native fragrant evergreen citrus when translating. Examples include lime, linden, and others I don’t recognize. The branches were used for burning sacrifices and that is the point. I think. Check the Koine Greek Bible.
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Rudy, you escape from America for the end times events the same way as saints will from all nations, with God’s help when Elijah comes. Definitely do not make the mistake some have.
Reply You must physically leave America in order to escape her destruction. In the final end, America will be turned into a lake of fire, PHYSICALLY.
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Idk a vatican vs America debate might be nice to hear. I don’t like debates but the arguments of each are indepth and neither is thorough in their dismissal of the other. I’ve gone back and forth about this. Thanks
Reply Charley, attempting to address all the arguments for a false position will never end. They just invent more arguments. (There are videos on youtube with 101 arguments for a pretrib rapture and 200 for a flat earth.) The best way to get the truth is to gather all the verses on a subject and objectively follow the consensus of their plain literal meaning of the clearest verses. This is a list of all the verses on Daughter/Mystery Babylon in the Bible.
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In Isaiah, Chapter 47, Isaiah prophesied for the coming of the Whore of Babylon before Babylon became a mighty power.
The Roman goddess, Libertas (Ishtar) was the goddess of prostitution and immigration whose motto was, “If it feels good, do it.” Sounds like America to me.
Vatican- not financial center; nobody gets wealthy from it; no deep ports; not a center of depravity or allure; Church today is so watered down I wouldn’t know what exactly it stood for, surely not purity or total corruption
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Babylon the great is a mighty nation, and not a city or a church as some bible scholars believed…Ancient Babylon was destroyed, and is lying in ruins to this day…so the question is where is Babylon the great ? And why is ancient Babylon called” Mystery Babylon” ? What people don’t know or understand is that Babylon the great changed her identity when she moved from ancient Babylon to Europe and North America…Great Britain and the U.S. are direct descendants of ancient Babylon…The U.S. is reigning over the kings of the earth but in reality it is Babylon the great that’s reigning over the kings of the earth under a new identity, through her descendants…When God judges ancient Babylon for her crimes against Israel and the world, God is actually judging the descendants of ancient Babylon…The U.S. will be hated by all nations and she will be destroyed by fire…Babylon the great, Britain the great, and America the great are one and the same.
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Hi Tim. Thanks for the clear insight. I often wonder if you can tell when the ten kings shall destroy Babylon from verses in Revelation. Revelation says ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom. Does this verse mean they have no kingdom when they destroy Babylon? Or just that they had no kingdom when Revelation was written? Thank you and God bless your ministry.
Reply Joe, They have no kingdom at the time of the prophecy and the prophecy says this because it is only with the Antichrist coming to power with their help that they get to rule under him in front at last. They are the minions under Satan who pull the strings of the kings of the world but are not kings themselves. See my http://escapeallthesethings.com/bible-prophecy-glossary for more.
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These ten kings have power for one hour….I wonder if it is the same one hour it takes to destroy Mystery Babalon? If so, then after they serve their purpose to the Antichrist and help him come to power, they may be in for a rude awakening.
Thanks for all you and your ministry do. Once one leaves the bliss of ignorance, it’s nice to have some help.
Reply TIM: To further document your findings, go to Wikipedia’s Statue of Liberty (Libertas) and then http://www.humansarefree.com).
The Statue of Liberty was Satan’s “Trojan Horse” for the destruction of America. Any statue that is prayed to is an open invitation for every demon in hell to occupy it and send curses and spells and Satanic attacks against home, business or nation where it is located. The prophet John did not recognize New York but he sure recognized Libertas.
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Tim, you are truly the go to person for end time prophesy. Your words ring so true in my Spirit. I desire so much to contribute to your great work and I pray others will also. I haven’t been able to but I stopped to ask God to make it possible. When it’s in my hands, it will be in yours soon. I’m so grateful for you. I pray God’s abundant increase and harvests upon you and your family for all you do in the kingdom. You’re a huge gift to the kingdom of God and I see that clearly. You are very appreciated by me. Merry Christmas on this Christmas eve as I have you and family in my prayers.
Reply Thank you, Helen. I know it’s a sacrifice for you and that will be greatly blessed by God.
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The only way you can be blessed by God is if you are an Israelite from one of the twelve tribes, otherwise the other nations are going to be put to death for their iniquity or going into slavery because their ancestors led nations into slavery (Romans 13:10).
Reply Shon, “only way”? For lack of a better word, that’s “racist” but thankfully God blesses us not based solely on race but mainly on our actions.
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Loved this article! Good info and so true!
My thoughts and research on Washington, DC…
Built on 7 hills.
The White House is built on donated land that was originally named Rome, MD.
The Corporation of Catholic Bishops was formed in 1800 in Washington, DC.
The facades in and around the White House is littered with vultures.
It is a major port city and great deep seaport.
Hopefully, the gate for the Tower of Babel will not be built in Manhattan. This would surely be the invitation for Satan.
My current thoughts about this latest election are…
There is a man that rises to power that gives appearance of saving the world; however this man (ten horns? – one blown off) gets shot and is dying. He makes a deal with satan. And as Bush, Trump had dreams/voices telling them to run for President. There was a Rabi that said that Trump is in the Bible as coming to power, but I don’t know what transpires after that.
For sure, no man can save the world. I have encountered many peoples that are loving, good, and giving; yet, they do not understand that we are all sinners, not saved by good works, but by God’s Almighty Grace. I pray for God’s angels to open their hearts!
Note that I am not a Bible scholar, but I have had Jesus in my heart since I was 4 years old. I have been gnashing a lot of teeth!
The Muslim Brotherhood is the Wahhabi Tribe that killed the Saints & Prophets.
God Bless!
Jizzy
God can work through a man and save a nation. Look at Moses, Cyrus the Great and many others that God works through men and woman and when and if God does, nothing can stop them:) Here is a thought for you:
Walking Through the Door of Destiny
I believe we are about to enter the greatest segment of time in human history. It will begin slowly with bursts of danger, suspense, anger, and joy. With the election of Donald J. Trump, we have lit the fuse of this exciting segment. It’s the prayers of Christians which ushered in II Chronicles 7:14. The call went out from many unnamed churches before the 2016 election asking us to pray for God to intervene for a revival in America. Violence, economics, government corruption, take your pick, we were hurting and wanting relieve. America had turned its collective back on God. Prayer was taken out of schools, abortion, drug addiction, violence, and turning our back on Israel. We are a nation needing God. Not any god but the God most high.
So many of us prayed for our country and God heard us. Christians asking for help and a blessing from God, but why would God help us as we neglected Him? God heard because past American leaders had heard God and obeyed. Presidents had helped and blessed Israel and God’s word is not void. Genesis 12:3.
Today a new president has renewed our hand of friendship to Israel and many in this country have failed to see the connection but God is going to renew His blessing on America. It is time for the Christian Army to stand up for God with prayer and support for Christ values. Notice I did not say Christian values for we as a people have forgotten the faith we either once had or the faith we thought we had. We need to continue to repent and put on the armor of God so as to join this fight. We are not the fighting army here but we are the representatives (Ambassadors) of the Living Christ. Our job is to stand for the fight is actually over with the resurrection of Yesuah. Our job is actually easy so why is it so hard to stand up for our Savior?
We are entering the time of judgment on the judges in America. President Trump has at least 3 more Supreme Court members to replace and these Federal judges who are interfering with his immigration executive orders will be replaced as well. We will see congressmen and senators leave in droves from both parties as God exposes their misdeeds. Prosperity from unknown and untapped sources revealed by God will eliminate the debt and bring nations together to help reduce hardships on the people.
Seven years of prosperity and revival in the church will cause God’s Word to be spread to all nations and will bring salvation to the world.
Satan will be always in the background during this time and when the seven years of prosperity, just as Donald Trump ends his 8 years, the rapture of the saints will happen. The unsaved world will be as they have wanted, be without God. Satan will rule the Earth for the next seven years. Open your Bible and see the destiny of those last seven years. The two witnesses, the locust, fire, Wormwood, etc… it’s all coming.
Destiny is here, well it was always here. It’s just time for a conclusion of this segment and the beginning of a new one.
Reply Stan, Wow one would almost think Trump was the Messiah reading your effusive praise and expectations of him with even the rapture coming as he leaves office! I’m not so sure as you as I have written a post here about before.
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Ronald, You are guilty of the same folly present all throughout the Bible, a MAN is not going to fix anything. The ignorant “Christians” in our country are why we will be so harshly judged. If a democrat is in office, he’s the antichrist, when it’s a republican you say “the scriptures say that God puts the leaders in place…”. You are literally an ignorant, stupid, false Christian. I can say this because you are so blatantly blind even with thousands of years of scriptures telling you the truth.
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Wow Mason,
Really? SMH ! Your words were totally uncalled for and extremely rude to our brother in Christ……I’m assuming you are a brother in Christ. Based on your harsh judgmental words here, I now have some doubts, but nevertheless, that is not my domain ……to judge hearts.
I have read and reread Ronald’s post and if you are going to accuse him of anything, it would be “over optimism. “ The man clearly is on his knees praying for God to bless our country and our leaders….which God commands us to do. And here you are accusing Ronald of being a false Christian merely because he is optimistic President Trump can be used by God in a powerful way for the good of America, the world, and our God.
Please ponder this scripture, it might give you a better perspective on life and how God works, “All good things come from above……”
I’m ashamed of you, Mason, and I hope you don’t take his words to heart, Ronald.
Paul
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Dude, you are so, so scary and so wrong at the same-time. Donald Trump been watching Scareface but changed Tony Montana greatest quote in the movie (America is a great big pussy ready to be fucked); Trump is grabbing America and the world by the PUSSY. Trump aint saving nothing, he trying to get in the Billionaires club… Anyway, the rapture, if you read your Bible correctly you do not want to be taken when the rapture happen. Those who are taken mean they are killed, they are not going to heaven to be with the lord for ever. Where they are going or rather end-up as, they will be bird shit eventually; raptured in the belly of a vulture and dropped to the ground as bird shit on your windshield.
The Seven year Tribulation will happen before the Rapture.
At the end of the age the unbelievers are taken first.
“In the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather together first the tares…. the harvest is the end of the world…. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity…. So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just.” (selections from Matthew 13)
Separate the wheat from the tares? No. Separate the tares from the wheat? Yes. The order of gatherings at this time is opposite to the rapture.
Those taken on that day end up as corpses for vultures to feed on.
“I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And He said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, there will the eagles be gathered together” (Luke 17:34–37).
“Eagles” is better translated “vultures.” “Body” means “corpse” according to the parallel passage Matthew 24:28. Those taken on that day end up as corpses for vultures to feed on. This cannot be the rapture.
You may answer that the birds of prey gather around those left rather than around those taken. Consider two points. First, Revelation 19:17 shows that the birds of prey gather to a certain spot rather than being scattered to find whoever is left. Jesus’ answer here in Luke 17 also speaks of such a gathering.
Second, when the disciples asked “Where?” it naturally implies “Where are they taken?” We already know where they are left. That’s obvious. We know where the bed is, where the mill is, where the field is. That’s where they are left. So the disciples wanted to know where they are taken. The only time the other meaning makes sense is when you ask, “Where did I leave my glasses?” But in this context where people are snatched away from various places, the natural question is “Where are they taken?”
It is those taken who end up as corpses for vultures to feed on. This is the opposite of the rapture.
Research and read because God aint no joke buddy…
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Be careful of who you listen to the antichrist is in the pulpit every Sunday preaching a false gospel. The USA is Babylon and we sit on many waters. The Statue of Liberty is the Queen of Babylon with a crown on her head with 7 points 7 seas and 7 continents and a torch leading millions to Hell.
Reply Excellent understanding of scriptures. People who believe in this “rapture” mess are under a spell of that Christianinsanity doctrine. Once the 7th trump is blown Yashuah ha Mashiach is on his way. Everyone will morn because it will be YAH’s day of reckoning. Once the tares are separated, Yahshua with tbe heavenly army will be doing some long stomping, hence the reason why ” he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood.” Another thing the people of the world will recognize, who true Israel is and it is not the imposters over there in Balfour Declaration Israel either.
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agreed, , he comes at the end., I was going to ask, , this webmaster, about his comment , believers taken out before America burnt up, , so that’s , obviously false, , question , is also, the anti Christ , cannot be from usa, since, well be annialated at some point, correct?, , we know, rome will be the, religious part of it, but the anti Christ, will be from a superpower, much like usa., , , only it cant come from usa, because well be gone at some point, and armegeddon, will continue on for some time before , the final coming of jesus Christ,, the dead in Christ shall rise up from the graves1st,, , all graves will open?, and believers worldwide will join jesus and his mighty army of angels, for gods judgement on satan., ?, , what do you think?
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Objection#6 can easily be explained. America has stolen, killed, raped The Most High prophets and saints through the trans-atlantic slave trade. The so-called black, negro, colored, African Americans are the true Hebrew Israelites and the true Jews.
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